WAR (Warhammer Online)

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Originally posted by Azrile
Whatare the two black marks?
I think the cut to classes/cities isn't really a mark against them.  While it is a negative towards the game in general, the fact that they shared it early and had the right reasons for doing it.. are good.

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Originally posted by grimmbot

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Originally posted by Jaga-TAO

So far Mythic has been good at spinning stuff off.

I do give them credit for being more open than other companies have been in the last 5 years. However they have two black marks in the last 30 days, which just before launch seems to speak more to the track record of other MMOG companies than one that has it's shiznat together.

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It's not so much that they've spun things better, it's that they're much more confident in their product from start to finish than Funcom was with Age of Conan. The key features and content of the game are all in -- it's not like Age of Conan that lacked content in mid-game and later.
I also have to say that the leaked hype from beta is nothing like it was from Age of Conan and other games I've seen thru launch. The fish started to smell from Age of Conan many months before release, but the percentage of negative posts I've seen around here are fairly low by comparison.
For an online message board, that's a tremendous accomplishment. ;)

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Originally posted by grimmbot

Originally posted by Jaga-TAO

So far Mythic has been good at spinning stuff off.

I do give them credit for being more open than other companies have been in the last 5 years. However they have two black marks in the last 30 days, which just before launch seems to speak more to the track record of other MMOG companies than one that has it's shiznat together.

 

It's not so much that they've spun things better, it's that they're much more confident in their product from start to finish than Funcom was with Age of Conan. The key features and content of the game are all in -- it's not like Age of Conan that lacked content in mid-game and later.

I also have to say that the leaked hype from beta is nothing like it was from Age of Conan and other games I've seen thru launch. The fish started to smell from Age of Conan many months before release, but the percentage of negative posts I've seen around here are fairly low by comparison.

For an online message board, that's a tremendous accomplishment. ;)

YOU ARE WRONG SIR! but actually it's about how confident Funcom was with AoC.  Remember their whole rant of WoW is like McDonalds and AoC is like a five star restraunt (or something like that).  haha failcom!

Originally posted by Jaga-TAO

 

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Originally posted by Azrile
Whatare the two black marks?
I think the cut to classes/cities isn't really a mark against them.  While it is a negative towards the game in general, the fact that they shared it early and had the right reasons for doing it.. are good.

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Of course cities/classes is a black mark. They waited until practically the end of Closed Beta (NDA drop) to tell people about it, and they had to know months ago. They were simply waiting for CE preorders to finish selling out, and for a good spin to form. "Not fun enough" generally means "not finished as we would like". Early as you indicated, would have been months ago, not 60 days from launch.

That constitutes a black mark in my mind, and there can be no doubt about the CE/SE preorder being a huge whups! thing for them. Regardless, both are negatives against the game (neither could be construed as a positive no matter what spin is presented).

 

If time pressure is a factor in their decision, how could they have known months ago? Of course they would try to stick to the original plan for as long as possible. Why shouldn't they? Their estimates were off, so when push came to shove they were between a rock and a hard place so they had to choose.

@ TAO: You bitch a bit to much for being a MMO "vet" for my liking. Maybe you should take a step back and see why these games are created for . . . money. Of course you have you're head so far up you're ass that you failed to realize that you can cancel a pre-order. Read this please. its on every pre-order sale on Gamestop.com:

Billing does not occur until shipment is processed.

Originally posted by treefitty

Originally posted by BearishSun

Originally posted by MrVicchio

 

Hey where did you find that? I can only see last month on x-fire, been looking for older data.

 

It has been modified. I was going to do a gag Warhammer Online one. if you look at the last edge of the line its paint shopped and the date JUN1 has been changed from july 1 and the middle from july 15 to Jul 1.. if you look closely you will see it. just a t#$ll.

http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Epidemic-Obesity/Risky-Business-Funcoms-Fears-Become-Reality/

Actually there buddy, I got it from here.  Now I don't claim to call the source legit, but the article is fairly well written, and I have no reason to believe it's fake.  

Get a clue.

Originally posted by treefitty

Originally posted by BearishSun

Originally posted by MrVicchio

 

Hey where did you find that? I can only see last month on x-fire, been looking for older data.

 

It has been modified. I was going to do a gag Warhammer Online one. if you look at the last edge of the line its paint shopped and the date JUN1 has been changed from july 1 and the middle from july 15 to Jul 1.. if you look closely you will see it. just a t#$ll.

I created this graphic for my blog post here:

Risky Business: Funcom's Fears Become Reality

The image is not directly from xfire, since they only show the last month or so.  I have been taking snapshots of data from the xfire site and then I composite the graphs together in photoshop and trace overtop to make a nice clean graph.  It's not misleading or wrong, it's just the only way I can get the longer date range visible to my readers.   I would post direct xfire snapshot links but they change the scale of the graph as the visitors drop so I have to resize them anyway.

XFIRE is a terrible way to judge subcriber numbers. The only times I have ever used XFIRE in my years of gaming is for FPShooters like CoD4 and MOHAA. I have never run into an MMORPG guild that requires XFIRE, but FPS Clans...... tons of them.