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Fungo  9/02/08 9:53:49 AM

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Originally posted by laresloci

I asked one guy  why he played female toons and he said that he gets way more repect and free stuff.

So, I desided to roll one. Well never again. I had more guys hitting on me then you can shake a stick.

 


 

People giving away free stuff and treating a person differently, just because of the way a toon looks, seem to be the ones with a problem.

 
Goldknyght  9/02/08 10:00:52 AM

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It''s one thing to have a opinion, but enforcing one is unconstitutional.

Originally posted by Fungo
Originally posted by laresloci

I asked one guy  why he played female toons and he said that he gets way more repect and free stuff.

So, I desided to roll one. Well never again. I had more guys hitting on me then you can shake a stick.

 


 

People giving away free stuff and treating a person differently, just because of the way a toon looks, seem to be the ones with a problem.


 

Its the way of a dude you try to court your lady to get somthing in return later but they dont seem to wrap around the idea that that this is a virtual world u dont have to do that. But boys will be boys

zmortis  9/02/08 10:39:18 AM

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Interesting theories about sexuality and character choice here. I'm a 41 year old married heterosexual male, and most frequently I choose female in game avatars as my main. I do enjoy the role playing challenge of playing across gender type, but mainly I pick female chars because if 90% of my game time involves staring at the ass of a particular character, I'd rather stare at a shapely woman's ass than a guy's ass. This doesn't make me homosexual, or homophobic, it's just a matter of my scenery preference as a heterosexual male.   That's not to say I don't also play male (or in the case of greenskins genderless) chars, but I usually only do so on some of my alts.

That being said, those people who refuse to ever play a cross gender character strike me as people who have possible hang-ups about their sexual identity. It's possible that they are either compensating for latent homosexual urges by being "extra macho" in their choice of entertainment (WWF, monster trucks, male only game avatars, etc.), or they are so afraid that someone might hit on them in game or accuse them of homosexuality that they act in a homophobic manner about sticking with their own gender, and thus prefer a "sausagefest" type of game experience. It's also possible that any kind of Role playing is viewed as unfun or too much of a intellectual challenge, and they only play characters close to their personality type.


My approach when guys "hit" on my character in game is to play the "mother" kind of character as opposed to the "sex vixen". If someone pushes the point I will "whisper" them that I'm a man likely old enough to be their father, and I really don't want to "cyber" with them. That usually conclusively ends any issues, and teaches the randy dudes who "cyber" in MMORPGs that they shouldn't presume player gender or sexual preference by character type.

I don't find it unusual that mature players who are confident in their sexual identiy are not bothered by playing cross gender avatars.  I do find it sad when people try to substitute in game chatting and fantasy for real life social interaction with people of their sexual preference.  I think that while gaming in general and fantasy gaming in particular is a fine pastime for entertainment, they should not replace real life relationships with family or friends.  If someone finds that they are playing a game to statisfy a need for social intimacy, they realy need to back off and reevaluate the direction their life is taking if they want to be a healthy functional individual.

However, if someone is happy being that oft parodied stereotype of the social misfit living in their Mom's basement and refusing to join the real world because of a fear of failure.  Then they need to come to the realization that male player numbers significantly dominate over female players numbers in MMORPGs.  The majority of Avatars of both genders are played by males.  Also, because of how some jackass guys behave in MMORPGs many of the female players actually play male Avatars to avoid the jackasses. 


I hope this helps.


p.s. If you run into Annegrelez or Dykestra in the game, say hello.  I use those names as they both justify a harsh (yet humorous) response to unwanted sexual attention.

 

 
Roin  9/02/08 10:44:00 AM

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I've never really understood the whole debate about Avatar gender.  90% of the time when I create a character, it's by coin toss.  I couldn't care less if the avatar is male or female.  As long as the model doesn't look fubar.  In those cases i'll forgo the coin flip, and go with the model that looks best.  Based on low, mid, and high level armors.  I also look at animations.  Bad animations with a good model, just ruins it completely.

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GenRabbit  9/02/08 2:07:05 PM

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Why does people gets so hanged up in the possibility some males play females or females play males?

Do they also get hanged up in that;
Humans plays dwarfs? (there are no dwarfs like the ones in the RPG in reality)
Human plays trolls? (there are no trolls, well you got forum trolls but their a different kind of breed)
Humans plays elfs?(there are no elfs)
Humans plays gnomes?(there are no gnomes)

On a little side note. One of the things I like with AoC is that the armors there for females made more sense, Armors for females in games like GW and most if not all Asia produced games is for making the character look sexy. Just how many females would run into the wilderness in boots with thin five centimeter high heels? they'd get stuck the moment they hit soft ground.
 

 
zindel  9/02/08 2:33:19 PM

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Originally posted by Ryman86

Originally posted by zindel

Koscher or Queer? hehe
Which is more queer?
1. A male player at character creation, going "oh yeah, nice lips on that face, nice ass, height..... yah shes hot" *Submit*
2. A male player spending the same amount of time and effort trying to make a "good looking" dude.

Not that there is anything wrong with gay or lesbian players (known a few females who played male toons), but if you're a phobic and guys playing girls wigs you out, might check yourself to see if you're not the queer one.

(that was a general statement, not directed towards you enigma)




Actually, you need a reality check bud. Most gays act like girls, which explains their abundance in fashion shows and what not. Personally, #2 only shows that the guy is perfectly fine with his sexuality, while #1 shows the guy needing to prove his sexuality.. which all in all, shows an immense chance of "hiding in the closet".
/sarcasm (That was a general statement, not directed towards you zindel)
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By the tone of this reply, it's obvious you feel the need to defend your sexuality. I'm gonna go with either homosexual or homophobic.


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Mizary  9/02/08 4:12:27 PM

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This topic like always comes up, in every MMORPG. Just wait for the game to come out, and see the topic of guys playing girls come up at least once a month on the official forums.
The people that have issues with this, need to get over it, and learn that a game is probably not the best place to try to score a date. Just play the game and enjoy it, who cares who’s playing who.
Myself, I am transgendered. I am a male, but I enjoy wearing women’s clothing, and portraying myself as a woman. I do a pretty damn good job at it also. I’ve had enough problems dealing with this in my real life, that the last thing people like me need, are to have to deal with it in a game world also.
So how exactly does that information affect your game playing in a negative way? Oh yeah it doesn’t. So what’s the big deal really?
 

 
Wardrop  9/02/08 4:40:16 PM

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The meaning of life is attained by caring for the one you have created.

Papa for life!!!

 

Who cares...

 


News flash

Guys and girls enjoy playing games.


If your looking to try to find a date in an mmog then You a pretty desperate SOB.

Im sure the girls that game dont want to be Harassed. They just want to kill shit, Hence the reason most play as dudes. If a guys playing a female toon again who cares... Why does it bend your dick?

Guess your the dirty SOB that sees a girl toon and gets that instant boner and wants to try to score. Thats pretty damn pathetic. I find my self laughing everytime i see posts like this.

 

If your old enough go hit the bar or something, you should know better...

If not then get some buddies together and figure it out.

it aint gay if you dont push back...

 

LOL

The Power of icons... anyhow  on a serious note...  Im sure the guy playing that girl toon would appreciate it.

 

vernd  9/02/08 6:19:45 PM