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jackeccs  10/02/08 9:19:08 PM

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good luck collecting $6 million. let alone a few thousand if that.

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xaldraxius  10/02/08 9:42:18 PM

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Originally posted by romne
You guys dont get it.  The only way botting hurts other players is that it hurts their egos that they were dumb enough to hand level their toons to 70 when they could have been smart and had a program do it for them..in other words it just hurts their egos. 
 in every other fashion botters HELP the gamer player.  Take note the emphasis on game player and not Blizzard.Botters help you get all forms of materials at the acution house for MUCH cheaper rates.. if alot of botters go missing over this be prepared to pay alot more for those items and I do mean alot more.  Need some outrageous ridiculous amount of gold for a flying mount in the upcoming WOTLK?  Whats more valuable to you...your time or a few dollars to buy some gold and just buy the damn thing rather then spend countless mindless hours getting it yourself? You tell me.  Anyone who thinks getting carpal tunnel while grinding out 10,000 gold for a flying mount has mental issues. 
The botter helps you skip past the dull boring parts of the game and get to the meat and potatoes of it...ie the fun part for those of you feeling righteous while you grind out your gold lol.  I hope this does get rid of alot of bots on a long term basis...then you guys will see just how much easier they have made your gaming lives in WoW.   Blizzard sells it like they are helping you by getting rid of botters but the truth of it is they are simply helping themselves...the longer it takes you to get through the game content, without the assistance of botters, the more money they make.  Pure, simple truth.  Now, are you going to take the blue pill or the red pill?


This is the truth. In the end all they have done is make it harder for the casual gamer to get decent items at the auctions. Botters for the most part just bot, they grind tons of mobs to get tons of stuff which they sell on the market to make gold which they sell for real money. In no way, besides their annoying spamming, which I agree needs to be dealt with, do they harm the players themselves. This is just Blizzard being greedy and saying that no one but them can make money off of their game. That's fine and dandy, and even understandable from a corporate point of view, but it's in no way Blizzard doing something for the players, it's quite the opposite.

 
declaredemer  10/02/08 10:56:31 PM

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"I play MMORPGs to feel FREE, yet I am always in chains."

Great victory for the gaming community.

 

Way to go, Blizzard!!

 
Mithrandolir  10/02/08 11:56:24 PM

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not a huge fan of WoW but this deserves a hefty

 
Blazer6992  10/02/08 11:59:09 PM

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Shit Happens !!!

   Nice to see people who try to make money off of others success go down hard.

Ngeldu5t  10/03/08 5:11:32 AM

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Awaiting for a skill base game with consequences.

Thumbs up for Blizzard,even if they can't collect the $6 millions they have ruined the guy and I believe that Mythic too will have no mercy for those parasites.

 
girlgeek  10/03/08 8:13:52 AM

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Originally posted by romne

You guys dont get it.  The only way botting hurts other players is that it hurts their egos that they were dumb enough to hand level their toons to 70 when they could have been smart and had a program do it for them..in other words it just hurts their egos. 

 in every other fashion botters HELP the gamer player.  Take note the emphasis on game player and not Blizzard.Botters help you get all forms of materials at the acution house for MUCH cheaper rates.. if alot of botters go missing over this be prepared to pay alot more for those items and I do mean alot more.  Need some outrageous ridiculous amount of gold for a flying mount in the upcoming WOTLK?  Whats more valuable to you...your time or a few dollars to buy some gold and just buy the damn thing rather then spend countless mindless hours getting it yourself? You tell me.  Anyone who thinks getting carpal tunnel while grinding out 10,000 gold for a flying mount has mental issues. 

The botter helps you skip past the dull boring parts of the game and get to the meat and potatoes of it...ie the fun part for those of you feeling righteous while you grind out your gold lol.  I hope this does get rid of alot of bots on a long term basis...then you guys will see just how much easier they have made your gaming lives in WoW.   Blizzard sells it like they are helping you by getting rid of botters but the truth of it is they are simply helping themselves...the longer it takes you to get through the game content, without the assistance of botters, the more money they make.  Pure, simple truth.  Now, are you going to take the blue pill or the red pill?

 

This is VERY close to being the most idiotic post I have ever seen on a gaming forum.

WHY...please explain this to me...WHY do you buy a game for entertainment and then have someone or someTHING else play it FOR you?

People who feel a "need" to bot their way through MMORPGs, need to find a different genre of game to play, IF they even enjoy playing games at ALL.

If you just want to "play the end game," then play Warhammer....the other MMOs are NOT going to miss your lazy a$$.  (On the other hand...I DARE you to go get a bot to do your RvR in WAR.  Mythic will clamp down on you so fast, your stupid little head will spin.)

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Aguitha  10/03/08 11:13:39 AM

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If you think questing is grinding, you should try to find something else to do with your spare time.  Grats to Blizzard.

 
Feyshtey  10/03/08 12:54:56 PM

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Originally posted by Suplyndmnd

Am I the only one that sees Blizzard lost in this case.  What they have done is put a value on virtual properties.  Wether their arguements were that it was used to make gold or farm items they have no bridged the gap between real world and virtual.

Now, why is this a bad thing?  Because now if they mess up and say, delete your account or ban your account and they cant prove you violated the EULA then you can now sue them for money in court.  All because they have put a monitary real world value on a virtual place.  Is this really going to stop the distribution of this program?  Doubtful.  If you can write a good enough program then you can make the money to afford the legal issues that come along with it.  More so now, if the ruling means the company can no longer distribute the program all they have to do now is make it so widely available that it gets into everyone's hands.

I just think that stopping people from botting is a much better course of action.  Also, sticking a GM in towns to catch the never ending flood of gold sellers spamming the trade chats can curtail this as well.  Final Fantasy XI has made great strides in combating RMT's and I think that WoW/Blizzard and others could take a page on combatting this evil demon from them.


 

 

The arguments and judgment left the value of the goods in the game un-addressed. As it should have. In fact, MDY’s case even states that the tool is only meant as a means to advance to 70 more easily and quickly, and that it discourages customers of the tool to use it as a gold-farming device. Blizzard’s stance did not reference the cash value of anything within the game system. It referenced only the imbalance of play experience when Glider is introduced into the equation for some players. Their arguments stated that the presence of Glider impeded Blizzard’s ability to balance that gameplay experience equally among all paying gamers, and that it provided a means for Glider users to absorb an unintended and unfair amount of game resources (both material and system resources). It further argued that there are lasting negative impacts in-game for the use of bot programs if left unchecked, not the least of which being the destabilization of the in-game economy.


The position of Blizzard was largely that MDY infringed on their copyright. Blizzard’s position was argued using the Copyright Act, and the DMCA. By order of the Ninth Circuit Court, copying a program to RAM constitutes a copyright