Darkfall

Originally posted by TenSpotting

Originally posted by Polarization

So getting the maximum amount of players per server as possible is vital to this game, if its  less then 10k, and we dont know if it will be, then it could have significant game play ramifications

 

The game would never get 100,000 active subscribers so the entire point is moot. Not in todays MMO market.. no way in hell.

The most I see this game ever getting is maybe 30k.. if that.. and even that would be alot.

 

A realistic, objective prediction regarding the fact that there are atleast 100k people registered for the beta (probably including you too). Hell, UO:T2A reached 100k subs, 10 years ago.

Originally posted by TenSpotting

Originally posted by Polarization

So getting the maximum amount of players per server as possible is vital to this game, if its  less then 10k, and we dont know if it will be, then it could have significant game play ramifications

 

The game would never get 100,000 active subscribers so the entire point is moot. Not in todays MMO market.. no way in hell.

The most I see this game ever getting is maybe 30k.. if that.. and even that would be alot.

 

I'd say a realistic prediction of subs for this game would be 50k-100k at start and then some gradual growth till a max of maybe 300k. Along the lines of EVE really. That is, if the game keeps what it promises.

But there’s already over 100k registered users on the official boards.

Yes it took 7 years to get around 50k

But with the recent video, beta signup and 2008 release date it jumped rapidly over 100k

And I’m sure it will continue to increase as pre launch hype and forms of advertisement attract more, and interest might significantly jump again if more progress is made like open beta starts or release date is announced or Darkfall is launched at ADW.

And you have to factor in DF will apparently be simultaneously available to buy on the shelf’s of 50 European countries if AVE does their job.

And don’t forget the “oh free game to play” open beta factor, that gets a huge amount of people interested in any game no matter what it is.

So if Darkfall is everything its been promised and there are no problems for the 2008 launch then I can easily see them getting at least  50-100k people buying and playing.

Like Eve online at launch and they can then continue to grow from there, like Eve has.

Of course whether or not Darkfall will be everything promised, and everything else will go to plan for the 2008 launch remains to be seen.

An whether or not 50-100k or more subscribers will remain long term subscribers and if they will be able to build on that or not will also remain to be seen.

Originally posted by TenSpotting

Oct 4'th - no beta date yet.

LOL

You don't need to respond to tenspotting talking about subscription numbers, it's basically like throwing feces back at a monkey.

Oct 4th (not 4'th you failure monkey) - already in hardware beta

LOLZ

 If Adventurine delivers on what they promised and they don't make any major mistakes I can see Darkfall having a larger subscriber base than Eve.  Fantasy is more popular than sci-fi and many people just cannot identify with a ship as the major representation of their character.

Just my opinion of course.

Originally posted by kasta

 If Adventurine delivers on what they promised and they don't make any major mistakes I can see Darkfall having a larger subscriber base than Eve.  Fantasy is more popular than sci-fi and many people just cannot identify with a ship as the major representation of their character.

 

Just my opinion of course.

That and eve's much more passive. It's hard to get much excited about it. An active game like this, sortofan Oblivion Online, will most likely surprise everyone with its popularity. People that don't think so just don't believe the game's coming out. 

Originally posted by JackArbiter

Originally posted by kasta

 If Adventurine delivers on what they promised and they don't make any major mistakes I can see Darkfall having a larger subscriber base than Eve.  Fantasy is more popular than sci-fi and many people just cannot identify with a ship as the major representation of their character.

 

Just my opinion of course.

That and eve's much more passive. It's hard to get much excited about it. An active game like this, sortofan Oblivion Online, will most likely surprise everyone with its popularity. People that don't think so just don't believe the game's coming out. 

It must be nice to be able to split up the world into two categories. Darkfall Success Believers and Vapor-Trolls. That's all there is, eh?

If you think EVE is passive, then you haven't participated in a real War yet. If you think people who put forth concerns and possible problems are all haters/Trolls, then you have a very one-track mind.

Just because someone doesn't believe everything Aventurine says until it is actually proven fact doesn't mean they hate DF or don't believe in its release.

Originally posted by singsofdeath

Originally posted by JackArbiter

Originally posted by kasta

 If Adventurine delivers on what they promised and they don't make any major mistakes I can see Darkfall having a larger subscriber base than Eve.  Fantasy is more popular than sci-fi and many people just cannot identify with a ship as the major representation of their character.

 

Just my opinion of course.

That and eve's much more passive. It's hard to get much excited about it. An active game like this, sortofan Oblivion Online, will most likely surprise everyone with its popularity. People that don't think so just don't believe the game's coming out. 

 

It must be nice to be able to split up the world into two categories. Darkfall Success Believers and Vapor-Trolls. That's all there is, eh?

You're right. I should have said:

People that don't think so either don't believe the game's coming out or don't believe it'll deliver on its promises in an effective manner.

However, as I will explain at the end of this post, there's a reason I don't say this, because the basic tenet of the meaning of the latter portion of the statement was already a factor in the conversation.

 If you think EVE is passive, then you haven't participated in a real War yet. If you think people who put forth concerns and possible problems are all haters/Trolls, then you have a very one-track mind.

You're right, I only spent 6 months playing and was only involved in 20-30 fights, including helping take down a mothership. Go look up the word passive, what are you twitching around shooting through a reticle or are you pressing keys and setting orbits through passive means? I am not bashing EvE, just saying there's no ACTIVE combat. 

Again, I did not mean to divide everyone into believers/trolls. I like Polarization, who's hopeful yet pessimistic. I think that there will likely be problems in the initial stage of the game, as there are with every game. However, I still think it'll be wildly popular. 

 Just because someone doesn't believe everything Aventurine says until it is actually proven fact doesn't mean they hate DF or don't believe in its release.

You're right. However, HERE'S WHAT I QUOTED:

If Adventurine delivers on what they promised and they don't make any major mistakes I can see Darkfall having a larger subscriber base than Eve.

This basically covers your concerns, and doesn't leave much left to be said other than "it won't deliver!" or "it'll deliver and be popular!"