WAR (Warhammer Online)

Originally posted by Jefferson81

Originally posted by Netspook

No, MJ is not the new Brad.

Having said that, I had a lot of respect for MJ pre WAR lauch. But his behaviour lately, has been extremely unprofessional and I've lost all respect for the dude.

Ie, going crazy after that comment from Blizzard, which imo was no big deal, screaming "the gloves are now off" and whatever, acting like a spoiled child against ppl on forums, just because they don't bend down and worship him/WAR, etc.

Well, when it comes to mature, professional behaviour, or should I say the lack of, then maybe MJ = Brad after all.

 

What comment from Blizzard?

Could you provide a hotlink please?

One of the Blizzard devs basically said that it is a bad sign when a game keeps up the NDA on a beta right up until release.   MJ took this as a slam against himself ( I still think the Blizzard guy was talking more about AOC though).   In Warhammer,  only beta people playing from 1-20 were allowed to talk freely about the game, the people playing 21-40 weren't allowed to talk about it until after the official launch.

After the Blizzard comment.   MJ posted about 5 long posts on various boards.... all basically saying that the developers of one game should not slam on another game and crying about how people were picking on him. yadda yadda yadda.. and finished with the phrase you keep hearing.. where he basically said he was taking the gloves off against Blizzard.

Completely false. Closed Beta NDA was raised from WAR about 4 weeks prior to launch. We were allowed to disclose everything we'd experienced in the beta, which included tiers 3-4 and end game (city sieges, king raids etc), and have been doing that on various fan forums since then.

It is indeed a bad sign when closed beta NDA isn't raised. WAR however is, as far as MMOs go, quite polished and was able to raise the NDA to fuel the hype.

May 19th I believe was the date it was lifted. You can easily verify this by Googling.

Not even close.

Mark delivered whereas Brad didn't.  Mark is still working hard on his game, he is passionate about it but I don't feel that is any reason to belittle him.  He is doing what he has to do to get people excited about his product, and even though it has some issues, flaws and bugs its still a pretty damn good, solid and fun game.

Brad and Mark have two completely different design philosophies as well as personalities.

So not... not even close.

Originally posted by Wolfenpride

All im going to say is Mark Jacobs is a horrible..horrible man..

i bet you are even more horrible.

Originally posted by ronan32

Originally posted by Wolfenpride

All im going to say is Mark Jacobs is a horrible..horrible man..

 

i bet you are even more horrible.

I agree. Most likely he's awful too!

Originally posted by Jefferson81

Originally posted by Netspook

No, MJ is not the new Brad.

Having said that, I had a lot of respect for MJ pre WAR lauch. But his behaviour lately, has been extremely unprofessional and I've lost all respect for the dude.

Ie, going crazy after that comment from Blizzard, which imo was no big deal, screaming "the gloves are now off" and whatever, acting like a spoiled child against ppl on forums, just because they don't bend down and worship him/WAR, etc.

Well, when it comes to mature, professional behaviour, or should I say the lack of, then maybe MJ = Brad after all.

 

What comment from Blizzard?

Could you provide a hotlink please?

Here's a good summary of the back and forth between Jacobs / WAR and WoW recently. Kaplan of WoW came out and said a few fairly common sense things (IMO), Jacobs responds with a few broadsides. It was a nerd slap fight.

Also, the comment about NDAs came from Jacob's himself. He made a comment about rating games by how fair ahead of launch the NDA lifts, then got smacked by the irony of being judged by those same standards that indicated Mythic had about "the minimum score you should expect from a MMO publisher" for WAR.

As for Jacobs is McQuaid: no. There is evidence that McQuaid drove Vangard into the ground through mismanagement, while Jacobs appears to be working hard on getting things moving (albeit often in the wrong direction). Both may be egotistical bastards, but I think the lead dev for any studio needs a hide like rhino skin to survive all the scrutiny.

Originally posted by Ixnatifual

Completely false. Closed Beta NDA was raised from WAR about 4 weeks prior to launch. We were allowed to disclose everything we'd experienced in the beta, which included tiers 3-4 and end game (city sieges, king raids etc), and have been doing that on various fan forums since then.

It is indeed a bad sign when closed beta NDA isn't raised. WAR however is, as far as MMOs go, quite polished and was able to raise the NDA to fuel the hype.

May 19th I believe was the date it was lifted. You can easily verify this by Googling.

The NDA on the elder servers wasn't lifted at that point. So the basic game had its NDA lifted, but not the advanced stuff at the end.

Originally posted by UnSub

Originally posted by Ixnatifual

Completely false. Closed Beta NDA was raised from WAR about 4 weeks prior to launch. We were allowed to disclose everything we'd experienced in the beta, which included tiers 3-4 and end game (city sieges, king raids etc), and have been doing that on various fan forums since then.

It is indeed a bad sign when closed beta NDA isn't raised. WAR however is, as far as MMOs go, quite polished and was able to raise the NDA to fuel the hype.

May 19th I believe was the date it was lifted. You can easily verify this by Googling.

The NDA on the elder servers wasn't lifted at that point. So the basic game had its NDA lifted, but not the advanced stuff at the end.

With good reason. WARs endgame is not just pathetic. It's just plain out not there. Raid to get a armor and then kill the bossyboi... Pathetic.. MJ you are a crook as fare as I am concerned. And I am out of your scam empty game. bye.

Originally posted by CobraSolidus

Don't get me started. If I were to start on all the lies of MJ here I would probably have been banned in less than a minute. Let me put it this way, I don't like Michael Jacobs for the reason that he has come across as a man of double standards also ready to stretch to is unprofessional means of communicating when he feel that is beneficial. He flames Blizzard for their comments about WAR not really being that ready at launch. Then he flamed FC for not launching a ready product. What the hell, he can not post with such double standards, and in particular when he is a CEO (at least he is supposed to be). It's juvenile and those guys should refrain themselves from Trolling and flameing. Brad McQuaid I say sure as hell 

say the guy with a photo of Mcain as avater...