WAR (Warhammer Online)

For the OP. WTH is your point?

You are tired of grinding?

WoW is a better game to grind in than WAR?

Why not post this whinge in the WoW forums, where at least it will look more like a compliment to WoW and it's multitudinous options for grinding.

You add nothing.

You say nothing.

Here's a thought. Stop playing for the grind. Play for fun, instead.

Originally posted by banthis

Lorndarken,

Guess you should of done something other than run to the end thinking you could Pwn Everyone and experience all the End Game by yourself with a couple of friends totally forgetting its an RvR game and the enemy has to be there with you *gasp*

I'm sorry you ran off and played WoW while you were logged into WAR and realized omg!? Well To bad for you one less whiner to deal with when everyone else is ready for end game.

im sorry,  i dont understand this  ignorant  moronic talk  about me playing wow, when i dont play wow to begin with , geuss that makes your claim about me that much more sad from a rabid fanboi of war.

i hope war has a real end game, cause if it dosent then what would be the point of playing it to begin with?

You do have to remember that most of the 'alternate' grinding functions available in Wow come after many years of expansions.

WAR is but a baby, and I feel thats the main reason why MMO's fail nowadays,  people cant get past the 'release'

For example, I hated Lotro when it first came out, I was appaling by its 'lack' of..well.. everything.

Now, Lotro is awesome,  but try convincing someone who play for a month after release.. they just dont want to know.

The same is going to be true for ANY new mmo.. I forever hear "ah but when Aion comes out.. when AoC comes out.. When Darkfall comes out... when.. [insert any mmo to come out here]  its going to be completly amazing.  What happens? people have over exagerated expections which will always disapoint.

This is why I never ever say "Im quitting" - people who "quit" mmo's in my eyes are idiots, years later these mmo's are amazing!  -  Try City of Heroes, Vanguard, Eve yes even DDO a year or 2 years later and they are fantastic games, let down only by their (now) small population.

Imagine if you met someone who said to you " Oh yes I tried using a computer about 15 years ago, it was completly awful and I will never by a home PC ever again!"   -  You would think such a person is an idiot because technology progresses, prices drop things get MUCH better..

For some odd reason people never realise this about an MMO.

Try WAR a year later..  I wonder what it will be like then.

While I agree with the theme of this post, I just don't know.  I played WAR.  I think I liked WAR, but in the end, I thought F it, I need to play GTA IV, Fallout 3 & Fable because they are great games, maybe I'll try WAR again in a few months.

While I agree that WoW today is the product of years of polish, I loved WoW from the beginning and played for several years.  It had that "hook" that WAR doesnt' seem to have.

One thing I really don't like for sure, is the customization.   I mean what's the deal with my goddamn staff for my AM having 2 different models for levels 1-20?  Same damn, robes, etc, and don't say I can throw a splash of Brown and Yellow on it and call that customizatio.  I don't know, I'll try again in a few months I guess.......

Originally posted by Souvec

Originally posted by SaintViktor

PVP centered game is just for the niche crowd who like that sort of thing.

1. Pve lacks big time. Too easy and PQs are nothing more than killing a mass of mobs for a chance at loot. No depth to the pve, the lore of the game is poorly told and the loot is nothing to brag about.

2. Faction imbalance is a major problem especially when your game is centered around RVR. Open RVR  is almost non-existant now because of this. Destruction is clearly the dominate faction which steamrolls over Order almost all the time.

When I played I wasn't expecting a WOW type game but clearly there is no creativity, the classes are done poorly as well as the combat. This game has clearly been way overhyped. Perhaps someday I will return but they really need to do alot of fixing before I even consider coming back to try it.

Yes your right, WAR is a PvP game for a PvP crowd.

1) The lore is presented very well through the PvE quests and the style in which they built it.  If you have honestly read every block of text for every quest, you wouldn't be saying this.  Playing my DoK... I picked up so much on the dynamics of the dark elf society, their Houses and hatred.  Read... thats where the lore is.

2) ORvR is not "non-existant" and if you feel that way your not looking to trying hard enough.  Its not hard to pull together a band of people to go out and start something.  Soon enough people come to fight back.  Just this night I was in a massive battle (one of many) in T2 mind you.  Minimum of a full warband one both sides.  It was fun, though I had my ass handed to me.

The classes are not poorly done, but they would feel that way if you were used to your sterotypical classes.  They made classes interesting and unique, they function differently and have a different feel.  The game was not overhyped, at least not by the company itself.  They made no references to it being the "steak" of MMO's.  Everything on the box was delivered.

They have alot yet to tweak and adjust, but sometimes I get a feeling people just like to bitch because they can, not because they need to.

1. Why do I need to read books just to enjoy the lore of the game ?  I have played Guild Wars for amost 3 years and have not read any books about the game and could probably tell you alot about the lore of the game just by playing it. People who played WOW could probably tell you alot about the lore of that game without even picking up a book either.
 

2. I played on the Volkmar server which is one of the most populated servers and people quit doing open RVR because of the major imbalance between Destruction vs Order.

3. Since day one especially on these forums all the diehards claimed this to be a WOW killer. That did not happen nor will it ever. Jeff and Paul in their videos claimed this to be fantastic and epic game. Sorry but it didn't feel anything like it at all.

People bitch about the game because they want the game that was promised to them. Heck, I wanted the game to be tremedously fun like alot of people did but unfortunately that did not happen.

Originally posted by Cryptor

Warhammer has the following grinds

1. Experience/Levels (quest grinding)

WAR definetly has this with not only 40 rank lvls but also renown ranks to grind.

 

2. Money (no need for money really).

Man are you ever wrong here.  Everything in WAR costs money, crafting ingredients, gear ( renown or vendor - both cost money ), mounts but it's all not too bad.  The first money sink that has been here since the start is the cost of owning a keep.  The cost of owning a keep is gigantic !  and the benefits of having one are too many to count.  Infact it's so expensive that our entire guild only has enough money now to hold one for two days.

3. Rep Farming Influence Farming: same as rep, to get better gear.

What do you think renown farming and influence is ?  If you are going to spend all this time typing these things think them thru before you type them.  "Rep & Influence"  or "Renown & Influence"  same thing different name.  The big difference is that WAR offers fantastic public quests to do it in.  Give me a public quest over endless mob killing any day.

4. Honor Renown: for the RR gearz

This is no different then #3, I think you started to run out of ideas right about here.

5. Arena

Scenarios.  Check the official page for guild / player rankings and results.  Jesus did you play this game at all ?

6. Badges

You don't think there are badges in WAR ?  You could not be more wrong.  The difference is that in WAR you get things that you can actually wear on your armor, things that you can show to everyone and everyone knows that they mean something.  Skulls on your armor, enemy heads hanging from your shoulder pads, medals, etc.. etc.. there is 100's.  After this one I was SURE that you never ever played WAR even in beta. 

7. Loots Not real dungeons to farm, and loots from inf and Rr would be farming that.

You are clueless and reading what you write causes me physical pain.  Unlike WOW , Warhammer already has two big dungeons ( by big I mean HUGE ).  Unlike in WOW where I had to wait ages for the Molten Core to even come out WAR has these things allready in the game.  Gundam is great fun and Bastion is amazing.

8. Titles: You can go look for Tome unlocks.

OK, at least we agree on something ;)

9. Proffesion materials proffessions aren't hammered out enough in this game to warrant farming of the mats unless you are utterly bored.
 

I had to think about this one allot but sure, I agree with you.  I get alot of godo crafting drops all the time and with scavanging there is even more.

 

in warhammer when you are done with scenarios, and its 1 am and nothing is going on in the server you feel like you just want ot log off.

 

In Warhammer when there is no scenarios ( battlegrounds ) you have tons of public quests where you can work on a common goal with other people without even having to ask for groups.  There is more but let's stay with this one.

 

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Well, there you go, some comments from someone who is actually playing the game and knows something about it.  Playing for couple of times during your free 30 days and being bored 'couse all your friends from school are playing wow hardly makes for an interesting read.  Let me mention few more things that I think are worth talking about when you are talking about WAR :

1. Public Quests are awensome, even if you are doing them alone and all you can do is part 1 it;s still far superior to just grinding mobs in WOW.

2. WAR is by far more stable game then WOW, it took WOW over a year of patching to get to where WAR was at launch.  Even if the few issues it has for some select people.

3. Clasess in WAR are so much cooler then most in WOW.  This is something really big that many people don't talk about - each class in WAR has a very different mechanic and you really feel different when playing each one.  It's a HUGE difference in how they approached differences in clasess.

There is so much more to this game that I just can't mention now 'couse I have to go to work in 5 hours.  But this is a good start I think.

 

 

Amen! /agree

Originally posted by Pheace

I would love a post apocalyptic MMO (fallout!) but the problem with most non fantasy MMO's is the ranged weaponry.... which .. while typing it sounds like flawed logic since we have plenty of ranged dps in fantasy mmo's ... Hmmmmmmm

If you keep up with our MMO hobby, you'll see a number of very promising NON-FANTASY MMOs currently in development and due for release between early 2009 and late 2010.

Here's a few (there are others) for your perusal:

StarGate Worlds; Star Wars: The Old Republic; Star Trek Online; Earthrise; Fallen Earth.

Most already have web sites and, even with release for some of them years away, a huge fan base following.  Check them out! :)