World of Warcraft

 

No that's exactly how it works in wow and every other mmorpg . Its a  entertaining time sink ,  play the game , learn it , play it more and get better , play it enough and get good at it like any other game and eventually you will have the good stuff.

Like they say , practice makes perfect, so yes when it comes down to it , its all about time, it takes time to learn the game, it takes time to be good and it takes time to earn the good stuff.

Put the main thing in the OP post, which I think is 100% true is, no matter how long you play, only 1% will ever get 2200 rated. Its not about time. THere are players that have played since beta that are 1500 rated. It takes...skill, desterity, and who knows what else...but 2200 rating is not reachable by 99% of population even if they played 12 hours a day every day.

Now, for raids, that is different...you can be average...and be carried through (if your guild allows this) and get top gear that way...but for the general public...kiss pvp gear good bye.

PS if, anyone doubts this...simply do lots of inspections of players. In BC, I was amazed how many times I saw players in full epic purples yet with arena ratings below 1600, or even <1500. Less then 10% would even be above 1700 (500 short of what will now be needed!!)

Originally posted by dterry

I don't consider gear grind to be dificult, just idiocy. Sheer idiocy. Can't game developers come up with something besides gear-grind to keep players coming back? How about fun? I'd stick around for fun.

Since it is based on a skilled ladder system, the highest gear is no grind. Unless you want to call a few  hours fun playing each week a grind.

Botters won't help you a bit .: you will only drop ratings since you play humans :).

So anyone else ... challeging my OP statement :)

WotLK is indeed the most difficult MMORPG ever  - PvP gear wise.

Originally posted by strategy

Originally posted by dterry

I don't consider gear grind to be dificult, just idiocy. Sheer idiocy. Can't game developers come up with something besides gear-grind to keep players coming back? How about fun? I'd stick around for fun.

 

Since it is based on a skilled ladder system, the highest gear is no grind. Unless you want to call a few  hours fun playing each week a grind.

Botters won't help you a bit .: you will only drop ratings since you play humans :).

So anyone else ... challeging my OP statement :)

WotLK is indeed the most difficult MMORPG ever  - PvP gear wise.

I am not disagreeing with you on it's difficulty level. But... a "few" hours. I don't think so.

Originally posted by strategy

To counter the threads of some that think Wow is too easy: Since WotLK PvP gear is now rated: did you know it is the most difficult MMORPG in this field?

A PvP rating of 2200 means LESS than 1% of the players will ....ever see this gear on their avatars?

These new ratings assure the "elite" players they will feel elite. 

Carebear? When only 1% or less of the players will ever get this epic gear?

And this gear will ensure that they stay on top. How exactly is that "hard"? Its not hard when your gear makes you overpowered.

Sounds like a game I want to play. 1% of the population gets to see the gear while the other guys get to get pwned by the gear. Awesome! Sign me up!

Originally posted by brostyn

Originally posted by strategy

To counter the threads of some that think Wow is too easy: Since WotLK PvP gear is now rated: did you know it is the most difficult MMORPG in this field?

A PvP rating of 2200 means LESS than 1% of the players will ....ever see this gear on their avatars?

These new ratings assure the "elite" players they will feel elite. 

Carebear? When only 1% or less of the players will ever get this epic gear?

 

And this gear will ensure that they stay on top. How exactly is that "hard"? Its not hard when your gear makes you overpowered.

Sounds like a game I want to play. 1% of the population gets to see the gear while the other guys get to get pwned by the gear. Awesome! Sign me up!

Read my posts.

The difference between the highest PvP gear set and the lowest - no rating - set is to be ... 4%.

So that answers your question isn't it.

Just enough to keep the motivation high but not nearly big enough to interfere with skill.

What do you think Blizzard is? FunCom?

 Not judging that its harder, because it could very well be. But you also forgot one thing. Some people will get that gear then stop playing to achieve it. Happened when they had rankings and it will happen with this rating system. Some of those people wont be able to hold onto the gear and others will bypass until eventually whoever wants the gear has gotten it. And some of those won't even care if they lose the gear. The accomplishment lies in just getting it. For some thats enough for them. So your 1% now could very well end up being 99% in a year. Then what? A new system? I'm not trying to badger you or anything, it just seems like all you play is WoW. Did you ever try playing DaoC and trying to get that crappy top end gear from ToA? Or how about the raid groups put together in EQ where only one person walked out with an item after 4+ hrs of raiding. Or how about the gear faction grind in Vangaurd which seemed impossible to even get without dedication when it first came about. 

You definitely should choose your words more wisely. And better yet, you should quit making threads to counter other threads. You only make yourself look like a fool because you want to continue a grudge over the net. Its pretty plain to see WoW is an easy game. If it wasn't, you honestly think 11 million + people would play it? Go read the boards, all your proof is there. My step sister plays WoW and has plenty of high level characters. Shes 11 years old. And she hates playing challenging games. So what now? I seriously don't even know why I contributed to this post, because threads about gear are so kiddish. GL with whatever, and just enjoy the game. Quit worrying about what other threads say. If they or I think it's easy. It's ok. We are not the government, we cant punish you. It's an opinon, and its ours. Take it with a grain of salt and just move on. 

Originally posted by mackdawg19

 Not judging that its harder, because it could very well be. But you also forgot one thing. Some people will get that gear then stop playing to achieve it. Happened when they had rankings and it will happen with this rating system. Some of those people wont be able to hold onto the gear and others will bypass until eventually whoever wants the gear has gotten it. And some of those won't even care if they lose the gear. The accomplishment lies in just getting it. For some thats enough for them. So your 1% now could very well end up being 99% in a year. Then what? A new system? I'm not trying to badger you or anything, it just seems like all you play is WoW. Did you ever try playing DaoC and trying to get that crappy top end gear from ToA? Or how about the raid groups put together in EQ where only one person walked out with an item after 4+ hrs of raiding. Or how about the gear faction grind in Vangaurd which seemed impossible to even get without dedication when it first came about. 

You definitely should choose your words more wisely. And better yet, you should quit making threads to counter other threads. You only make yourself look like a fool because you want to continue a grudge over the net. Its pretty plain to see WoW is an easy game. If it wasn't, you honestly think 11 million + people would play it? Go read the boards, all your proof is there. My step sister plays WoW and has plenty of high level characters. Shes 11 years old. And she hates playing challenging games. So what now? I seriously don't even know why I contributed to this post, because threads about gear are so kiddish. GL with whatever, and just enjoy the game. Quit worrying about what other threads say. If they or I think it's easy. It's ok. We are not the government, we cant punish you. It's an opinon, and its ours. Take it with a grain of salt and just move on. 

Isn't it great that a company catering for the general public - read youngsters and grandmothers - also can include a very hardcore rating system to obtain very rare epic gear that only 1% of the players (or even less) can and will have?
 

It shows one thing to me: Blizzard has indeed balls if they think to get away with it.

So no carebear here. And that's all I wanted to show.

Originally posted by strategy

To counter the threads of some that think Wow is too easy: Since WotLK PvP gear is now rated: did you know it is the most difficult MMORPG in this field?

A PvP rating of 2200 means LESS than 1% of the players will ....ever see this gear on their avatars?

These new ratings assure the "elite" players they will feel elite. 

Carebear? When only 1% or less of the players will ever get this epic gear?

You're right - for arena, that is. And can we please ban the word "Carebear"?