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 Well Turbine in my opinion has released an expansion that clearly shows that a huge budget is not needed to put out a quality product. Mines of Moria is a great expansion.

Now this thread is not intended to try to sell people on LOTRO but to discuss that this shows that it does not have to take a budget of a small country to put out a good product in the MMO industry.

Im not here to put any company down but i believe that this does show its the dedication to the product in making a fun game first higher priority than if it will make tons of money. Not saying profit is not on the mind of these people and i know they want it to be a success by all means. But clearly shows they are asking " Is this fun?", first.

Other then what Turbine did to Asheron's Call 2 I think they are a very well run company that realy cares about what they are putting out . Asheron's Call was my first MMO and no other game has kept me playing it for as long as that (4 years  8 + hours 7 days without  a break) .Other than that the longest I have played  a game is 2 years and every game I play now I seem to get sick of it sooner . I only played AOC for 2 weeks.

Actually, the expansion Turbine released for AC2, Legions was top quality - even better than MoM. And we all know how little budget AC2 had ...

So, I agree with the OP

What's so good about it?

Am I the only person who thinks Turbine is a terrible company?  AC2 is not their only blunder.  While eventually it was an alright game, it was a mistake for them to make it in the first place, and they have admitted that.  They admitted competing with themselves for a player base was just bad marketing. 

Amazingly, when Turbine bought the license to AC from Microsoft and owned it 100%, that's when the original game started to go downhill.  They made a couple good decisions right off the bat, and then thinks just went to hell.  They made a series of horrible decisions which ultimately led to the life support the game is currently on.  All they care about now is big IPs, where instead they should be focused on the former creativity that they had.  DDO had potential to be much much more than it is, and IMO is just plain crap. And LotR online, while not horrible, is also not near the potential it had.

AC1 will always remain my favorite MMO of all time.  I have the best memories of any game I've played, in it.  But I loathe Turbine for running it into the ground with bad decision after bad decision.  It was their baby, and it proved that they were extremely innovative and creative.  But then they ditched innovation and creativity and replaced it with big name IPs.

Originally posted by telbar

Other then what Turbine did to Asheron's Call 2 I think they are a very well run company that realy cares about what they are putting out . Asheron's Call was my first MMO and no other game has kept me playing it for as long as that (4 years  8 + hours 7 days without  a break) .Other than that the longest I have played  a game is 2 years and every game I play now I seem to get sick of it sooner . I only played AOC for 2 weeks.

YOU havent played DDO obviously.

and how is turbine small budget?

Arenanet is even smaller and they are doing even better than Turbine, off course small devs can make good games and sell better thanmany of the high cost ones.

Originally posted by megafluxmega

Originally posted by Sheista

Am I the only person who thinks Turbine is a terrible company?  AC2 is not their only blunder.  While eventually it was an alright game, it was a mistake for them to make it in the first place, and they have admitted that.  They admitted competing with themselves for a player base was just bad marketing. 

Amazingly, when Turbine bought the license to AC from Microsoft and owned it 100%, that's when the original game started to go downhill.  They made a couple good decisions right off the bat, and then thinks just went to hell.  They made a series of horrible decisions which ultimately led to the life support the game is currently on.  All they care about now is big IPs, where instead they should be focused on the former creativity that they had.  DDO had potential to be much much more than it is, and IMO is just plain crap. And LotR online, while not horrible, is also not near the potential it had.

AC1 will always remain my favorite MMO of all time.  I have the best memories of any game I've played, in it.  But I loathe Turbine for running it into the ground with bad decision after bad decision.  It was their baby, and it proved that they were extremely innovative and creative.  But then they ditched innovation and creativity and replaced it with big name IPs.

 

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MoM expansion is just crazy , the amount of work and polish the game world has now is better then anything on the market, a game with the look , a game with an actual game world , and mechanics that seems to grow.

MoM, blows anything I've played in the past 5 years away, in the mmorpg genre. Once I got inside and started to see the craftman ship of the world designers, it is just mind knumbing. Turbine is a gamers game company.

the game is not for everyone though, and people get out of it what they put, if your going to moan and grump around, you won't like it, this game is not for the emo.

"vavle" = pure blizzard tard like sell out. Dave Newball said he would never make a game for the ps3, guess what L4D is coming out for Ps3. F valve, they ruined every great mod , mods that used to free, now lame suck tards pay 20 dollars for them which inturn makes the "we can make money off mods now , bitchen" mentallity stick. If you can trust Valve, you are just not informed about games, At All, or you just like "big sell out everyone is playing it" games.

I love Turbine, as from my experience they release quality products. And I also agree with the previous poster that ArenaNet is also an excellent company. Companies such as these can really teach other, larger companies a few lessons.