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Originally posted by DM19

If only the devs doing SGW look at this as there combat system is close to what TR had but not as good

TR had a good combat system and nothing else that qualified it for a monthly fee.

R.I.P. Tabula Rasa.

Anyone following the troubled development of this game shouldn't be surprised by this.

Anyone paying attention to the irrational way Garriott has behaved over the years shouldn't be surprised by this. 

Anyone playing TR upon release shouldn't be surprised by this.

Not that the MMORPG community is likely to learn anything from this.  You can still see baseless hype over other games in development that have slavering fanboys thinking the next game is going to be the Second Coming. 

At least this should finally eliminate any of Garriott's status as some kind of game desinger genius.    I played some of the old Ultima games.   They weren't that great.    They were just the best thing you could run at the time on those early generation of PCs.    They just always get remembered with rose-colored glasses.     This has finally broken those glasses and forced everyone too see Garriott clearly. 

And all it took was millions and millions of dollars thrown down the drain by NCSoft.  

Don't agree i think it was very boring and one of the many things that help kill it

No long hair styles for females.  This game was doomed from day one.  I can not and will not pay to play a butch chick.

WOW has some long hair styles for females AND for males.  11 million subscribers.

Originally posted by teddyboy420

Now that I think about it though, none of NCSoft's MMOs have really done all that well. It's top performer has to be, at least here in NA, CoX, and I'm guessing that at it's peak it only ever had maybe 250k players. Then what is there?

I think you are forgetting Guild Wars there chief. You know, one of the most popular MMOs of all time?

As for Vanguard and EQ2, you can sit there and tell me they are "fixed" now all you want but it doesn't alter he fact that there is a very small number of people playing them. Release is what makes or breaks a game. More people will try a game when it is first released than at any other time. If your game isn't what it was hyped up to be at release then it never will be and most players will leave because of that, never to return. Watch how this happens to AoC. Or how it already happened to AO. Games just don't ever fully recover from bad launches, even if they get "better" later. EQ2 and Vanguard may be "better" now, just like some people claim AO got better and that AoC is getting better, but they will never get the numbers they were meant to have. I promise you that SoE wouldn't be keeping these games online if it wasn't for the all access pass.

I will admit that a lot of people have tried to tell me about how great EQ2 is during these discussions about Tabula Rasa shutting down, perhaps I will give it a try.

But that stuff you said about SWG... yeah, try saying something like that to a fan of pre-NGE SWG in real life and see if they don't kick you in the balls for it. Trust me, SoE only keeps it alive for the all access pass and because they don't want to admit how badly they screwed up. There are a lot more people out there who want to see that game shut down than there are who want to see it stay online.

Alienovrlord, I agree 100%. Garriot was apparently more interested in playing space man than in working on Tabula Rasa. I seriously hope he never gets another job in the gaming industry ever again.

Terranah, if hair style is the factor you look for in an MMO then do us all a favor: go sign up for Second Life and be done with it. MMOs are about gameplay, not hair. Stuff like this is the reason why women don't get taken seriously in the gaming community.

Originally posted by Bronks

Stupid NCSoft...

 

They need to take a queue from SOE and lump their games into a pay-one-price-for-all subscription. Of all the MMOs I have played, AA and TR were two of the best non-conventional MMOs around. With an all access pass, NCSoft could have seen some of the Lineage or COX crowd to check these great niche games out.

IMO, when you are a niche game producer, you would benefit the most from an all access subscription. I'd still be playing AA and TR if I could have paid $30 a month to access all of NCSoft's offerings.

MMOs should never die...

/sign

good post!

at least tr was different from all this shitty wow clones out there. its a shame that only the boring mainstream bs can survive these days ...

the mmorpg genere is really f*cked up atm. lets pray for something new & different!

TR was new and different as was AA it's predecessor but AA died and now it seems TR is dieing too :(

This is the NCSoft way - close down a failed game so that their subscribers bolster the numbers for their new game, in this case Aion. It was a shame to lose the innovative Auto Assault, same with Tabula Rasa but at least NCSoft brought that innovation to the table. We're already seeing a similar cover system in Stargate Worlds and I feel that exploration has become a bigger part of MMOs, perhaps inspired in some way by TR's Logos hunt.

Tabula Rasa is dead, long live Aion. Well for a year and a half until the next NCSoft release at least ;)