World of Warcraft

Why are ppl finishing 25 mans in less than 2 weeks from release ? 

Simple...  lvl 70 raiding gear is better than the lvling gear you got from rushing through the lvling prosess.  There is no need for Heroic runs... You just use the lvl 70 gear to get the best lvl 25 man gear.... and... then you can pretty much 3 man heroics....

Now... It should have been the other way around.   Hardcores should have been running heroics 50 times before beeing able to even go for 10 mans.   Then you simply lower the price of the honor gear (in terms of badges) for the late comers to balance the game out....

I see WOTLK beeing the biggest failure of Expansion ever created.  The closest thing would have been SWG but thats not even close to the mess BLizzard has now done.  It wil take 2-3 months to sink in ... but then ppl reaslie how bad it really is...

I love it how WoW is so gear-dependant. 95% of the game is based on gear, 5% other factors (i.e. skill).

That's what makes all those people play this game, grindfest for gear.

Originally posted by Xtort

I love it how WoW is so gear-dependant. 95% of the game is based on gear, 5% other factors (i.e. skill).

That's what makes all those people play this game, grindfest for gear.

I love how people who hate wow arbitrarily make up statistics 78% of the time and accuse any game they dont like of being a grindfest 69% of the time.

Originally posted by Xtort

I love it how WoW is so gear-dependant. 95% of the game is based on gear, 5% other factors (i.e. skill).

That's what makes all those people play this game, grindfest for gear.

At this point its not grindfest for the ppl that already did ANY raiding before.  They just use the lvl 70 items and can skip the heroics.  The real grindfest is for those that DID NOT raid in TBC.  They will have to go Heroics before doing 10 or 25 mans.  Thats the big mistake.

Lets look at this logically. The folks racing through WOTLK have probably had 70s for quite awhile and have geared up greatly. The gear they are wearing is probably equal to level 80 greens.

Also, they have been raiding and playing their toons for quite awhile and chomping at the bit for something new to do.

Those who come through without years of  level 70 raiding and PVP will not be so well geared and will progress through WOTLK at a normal pace.

That being said, I am loving the quest chains in WOTLK and am taking my time.

Originally posted by Cbdragon1

Originally posted by Xtort

I love it how WoW is so gear-dependant. 95% of the game is based on gear, 5% other factors (i.e. skill).

That's what makes all those people play this game, grindfest for gear.

 

I love how people who hate wow arbitrarily make up statistics 78% of the time and accuse any game they dont like of being a grindfest 69% of the time.

 

 

Oh someone is playing with numbers to look original. I see what you did there.

Originally posted by orlac

Lets look at this logically. The folks racing through WOTLK have probably had 70s for quite awhile and have geared up greatly. The gear they are wearing is probably equal to level 80 greens.

Also, they have been raiding and playing their toons for quite awhile and chomping at the bit for something new to do.

Those who come through without years of  level 70 raiding and PVP will not be so well geared and will progress through WOTLK at a normal pace.

That being said, I am loving the quest chains in WOTLK and am taking my time.

If we were on a forum where logic dictated the ebb and flow of conversation, this thread would not have been posted.  I'm guessing the OP hasn't even seen a 25 man instance yet.

If WoW wasn't based on gear then people could complete raids and do PvP with all grey items equipped without any problems.

Originally posted by Briansho

If WoW wasn't based on gear then people could complete raids and do PvP with all grey items equipped without any problems.

That's so true, whether we are talking the original gold box NwN, UO, EQ, magic gear and the strive to acquire it has always played an important role in MMO's. +1 longswords, Mace of Vanquishing, whatever the case may be... I seriously doubt you'll find any gamer, including the poster complaining about gear based games, wearing only grey or white store bought armor or weapons on a 100% of the time basis. We might see people try now that this comment has been made, but it just doesn't happen.

 Don't really care. I just wish they would give me  a