Age of Conan

Hey guys, i have read articles and forums etc all about Age of Conan and there is as you all know, mixed views...   i was wondering though how is the PvP at this stage of the game?

I know there are various ways you can go about PvP in AoC but, generally, Is AoC's PvP any good?

Active combat is awesome! But if you want to be able to just hop on and play PvP whenever you want then you'll like WAR s mini game RvR grind. Mini games rarely happen expect for lvl 80s. Other than that sieging, mass PvP, and small open world PvP is awesome.

Well I personally think its the best out there atm as far as mmorpg's go but this is because I cant stand the old school EQ, WOW style of combat. Its a lot more fast paced then other games and tends to rely much more on player skill then gear, although gear still plays a small role.

Sieging works just fine and is fun and actually changes players stats based on the outcome of the siege. I still think they should do more with the system they have in place though.

I dont think any MMORPG has really flushed out the pvp aspect as much as they should have but I do see more inovation in AOC's pvp system then most others.

Hope thats helpful.

Originally posted by ganton

Well I personally think its the best out there atm as far as mmorpg's go but this is because I cant stand the old school EQ, WOW style of combat. Its a lot more fast paced then other games and tends to rely much more on player skill then gear, although gear still plays a small role.

Sieging works just fine and is fun and actually changes players stats based on the outcome of the siege. I still think they should do more with the system they have in place though.

I dont think any MMORPG has really flushed out the pvp aspect as much as they should have but I do see more inovation in AOC's pvp system then most others.

Hope thats helpful.

What innovation are you talking about? The point based consequential PvP system is as old as Ultima Online. Not to mention that it can be exploited and does not even work like it should.

The whole PvP system they put in place 6 months after they announced the game to be the ultimate PvP action mmorpg is an ill conceived afterthought.

you want pvp play lineage2, seriously i got back on l2 last week, i forgot how fun it was, made me wonder why i did quit, i tested every single game out related to pvp, lineage2 is just the best pvp MMO released, followed by eve online

and aoc so far suck

hardcore gamers left aoc long ago and aren't going back, you ask about pvp which is a competition based on the community of games servers, unless you think that server full of carebears, or ppl who have no tast or idea about whats wrong with that game could make a server fun....game is boring, community is boring

and finaly no haven't tested aoc since july, so have no idea how it is now

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Originally posted by scabzy

and finaly no haven't tested aoc since july, so have no idea how it is now, but pretty sure suckballs

LoL

When it comes to combat Lineage 2 really suck if you call that mouse clicking a combat you must be confused.

The only good thing about Lineage 2 PvP was that you could drop your item and the drop part was only good cause you grind your ass out to get the item .. thats caused a lot of drama.

When it comes to AoC combat well if you like fast pace combat were items dont mean much ( actually atm they means shit ) then you will like AoC.

But dont confuse PvP combat mechanics ( which is great in AoC ) with meanigfull PvP .. thats the aspect where AoC is lacking .. sorry but grinding your ass to gain PvP levels usually consist only open world PvP on one map ( Kashatta ) and thats not enough.

When beside that they add some additional maps, mini games ( aka scenarios ) for 12 vs 12 etc.. then it may become more fun.

After all the patching etc.. you will have a blast in AoC leveling up your character and PvPing all the time as game is brutal dont expect that other players will just pass you .. you are PvP XP and to gain PvP levels is hard grind.

The problem is once you are level 80 and you do also several raids and sieging you will get bored and eventually quit as many did.

p.s. I also suggest you wait till January 2009 as you can expect free trials ( funcom announce them in Q3 report )

Originally posted by IKShadow

The problem is once you are level 80 and you do also several raids and sieging you will get bored and eventually quit as many did.

Hopefully, once he hit 80, the new content should be out. Problem with AoC PvP is that Kheshata is reallynot that great for PvP, but OT common will hopefully fix that.

I like the PvP fights in itself, they are very fast and exiting. Not quite as good as Guildwars but not to far away from there. WAR have many good points but the combat in itself just seems slow and boring to me.

No, OP... It is worth trying the game, I can't promise that you like it but if you like fast and deadly PvP combat, go for it. If you prefer the slower Wow kind, then get WAR instead. Just a matter of preferences off course.

Neither AoC or WAR are totaly complete games yet, AoC still misses lvl 75+ content that is supposed to be patched in around X-mas or maybe january so if you are a real HC player that plays 6+ hours every day of the week you should probably wait a month.  In WARs case I would wait until they patch in the 4 missing citys.

Originally posted by IKShadow

Originally posted by scabzy

and finaly no haven't tested aoc since july, so have no idea how it is now, but pretty sure suckballs

 

LoL

 

When it comes to combat Lineage 2 really suck if you call that mouse clicking a combat you must be confused.

The only good thing about Lineage 2 PvP was that you could drop your item and the drop part was only good cause you grind your ass out to get the item .. thats caused a lot of drama.

When it comes to AoC combat well if you like fast pace combat were items dont mean much ( actually atm they means shit ) then you will like AoC.

But dont confuse PvP combat mechanics ( which is great in AoC ) with meanigfull PvP .. thats the aspect where AoC is lacking .. sorry but grinding your ass to gain PvP levels usually consist only open world PvP on one map ( Kashatta ) and thats not enough.

pvp combat mechanics ??....... this is exactly my point

again the combat system in aoc is slightly different, not good(or great..), basicly it's a typical system of  clicking or targeting, since most of skill you need to get a target on, with a variant that isnt new into games which makes possible to hit things in you range without having to target (this works only on normal hit and combo), and finaly combo, the dumbest thing in the game by far.

becuz

1-when you have macro you have absolut advantage

2-when you lag, (latency or perf) you are screwd

3-kills the combat dynamic, by encouraging ppl to run around the target, pvp become so lame running around going forward backwrd while hiting the wind, pvp isnt realistic at all or fun

the combo system was badly implemented, ppl on forum did posts to fix it, like remove the skill combo, and just doing the combination would trigger it, this would be better, even if it's still have the lame part where ppl run around hiting the wind

where you see great, i see bad, and where i see great you see bad, i guess tasts differs, i wonder who's wrong on the absolut

Originally posted by scabzy

pvp combat mechanics ??....... this is exactly my point

again the combat system in aoc is slightly different, not good(or great..), basicly it's a typical system of  clicking or targeting, since most of skill you need to get a target on, with a variant that isnt new into games which makes possible to hit things in you range without having to target (this works only on normal hit and combo), and finaly combo, the dumbest thing in the game by far.

becuz

1-when you have macro you have absolut advantage
False .. If you use macro you dont have ability to control your hits -> each miss is penalty in final combo damage ( I guess you did not follow last month updates )

2-when you lag, (latency or perf) you are screwd
Well LAG is a killer for all games .. the main reason why EU and US servers are splited

3-kills the combat dynamic, by encouraging ppl to run around the target, pvp become so lame running around going forward backwrd while hiting the wind, pvp isnt realistic at all or fun

False again / combos were change so if you do preform combo in air you loose A LOT of damage on finial hit. So its pretty realistic now.
 

the combo system was badly implemented, ppl on forum did posts to fix it, like remove the skill combo, and just doing the combination would trigger it, this would be better, even if it's still have the lame part where ppl run around hiting the wind

Wind hits are now out no one do it as you waste a combo .. as for combination only we had that in beta and I loved it .. there was some issues with controling combos but I personally i would prefer if you had 1 combo key and then whatever sequence you press you preform the combo.
Auto preforming combos was quite annoying as you really could not control shit-

where you see great, i see bad, and where i see great you see bad, i guess tasts differs, i wonder who's wrong on the absolut

Well AoC did loose a lot of player cause for fight you required a bit more involvement then in most other games where basically you can play them with 1 hand clicking stuff around and waiting to be preformed. ( best example is lineage 2 )

 

Note: Mage fights can be the same boring fight as in other MMO's .. with exception of spell waving.