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actually it could STILL be saved from the gravestone if they adopt a GW style to it instead of just tossing it into the trash heap along with AA

By adding expansions for sale instead of by patch it could virtually extend TR's life cycle for a good while longer

Though this WILL require on their part some story developers as After you hit about 40 in the game the storyline just up and went poof.

Hmmm...

First John Romero with Daikatana

Then Brad McQuaid with Vanguard

Now Richard Garriot with TR

Wonder who will be next.

I never could get into TR, but I empathize with those who have played and enjoyed it. I rather enjoyed Asheron's Call 2, and to see that game go down really did suck. So, yeah... won't find me going "neener neener" at anyone over this.

I do think, though, that there's too much weight given to who is developing a game. Too many MMOs are, in my opinion, being over-hyped and - whether on their own merit, or due to raising expectations impossibly high - failing to live up to that hype.

I also agree with those who've said that mixing FPS and RPG elements together in a MMO sounds great on paper, but doesn't seem to work as well in practice. Spellborn has its own take on that approach, so we'll see how that does,  I suppose.

Originally posted by Ludwix

"To thank our loyal Tabula Rasa fans we've prepared a little closing down gift. Any active paying player as of 10:00 AM Pacific Time on November 21st, 2008 will be eligible for all of the following:

* 3 free months of City of Heroes including digital client
* 3 free months of Lineage II including digital client
* Aion beta access (coming soon)
* Aion pre-order access (available in 2009)
* 1 free month of Aion including digital client (available in 2009)"

 

Hmmm these are some nice features/gifts, best connected with TR so far tbh. :P:P:P

Funny story.

Bought Auto Assault in the Futureshop (Canadian Best Buy) bargain bin for $5 one day... waited about a year to get around to installing it. A week later, it was announced that it was done. As a consolation gift, NC Soft gave out free Tabula Rosa games and COV/H games for free.

I didn't bother installing TR until about two weeks ago... now this, and I now qualify for 3 months of COV/H, Lineage 2, and this beta stuff.

I'd say that original $5 has gone a pretty long way!

Originally posted by Bob_Blawblaw

Originally posted by Ludwix

"To thank our loyal Tabula Rasa fans we've prepared a little closing down gift. Any active paying player as of 10:00 AM Pacific Time on November 21st, 2008 will be eligible for all of the following:

* 3 free months of City of Heroes including digital client
* 3 free months of Lineage II including digital client
* Aion beta access (coming soon)
* Aion pre-order access (available in 2009)
* 1 free month of Aion including digital client (available in 2009)"

 

Hmmm these are some nice features/gifts, best connected with TR so far tbh. :P:P:P

 

Funny story.

Bought Auto Assault in the Futureshop (Canadian Best Buy) bargain bin for $5 one day... waited about a year to get around to installing it. A week later, it was announced that it was done. As a consolation gift, NC Soft gave out free Tabula Rosa games and COV/H games for free.

I didn't bother installing TR until about two weeks ago... now this, and I now qualify for 3 months of COV/H, Lineage 2, and this beta stuff.

I'd say that original $5 has gone a pretty long way!

Wow, this is actually hilarious.

Originally posted by Bob_Blawblaw

Originally posted by Ludwix

"To thank our loyal Tabula Rasa fans we've prepared a little closing down gift. Any active paying player as of 10:00 AM Pacific Time on November 21st, 2008 will be eligible for all of the following:

* 3 free months of City of Heroes including digital client
* 3 free months of Lineage II including digital client
* Aion beta access (coming soon)
* Aion pre-order access (available in 2009)
* 1 free month of Aion including digital client (available in 2009)"

 

Hmmm these are some nice features/gifts, best connected with TR so far tbh. :P:P:P

 

Funny story.

Bought Auto Assault in the Futureshop (Canadian Best Buy) bargain bin for $5 one day... waited about a year to get around to installing it. A week later, it was announced that it was done. As a consolation gift, NC Soft gave out free Tabula Rosa games and COV/H games for free.

I didn't bother installing TR until about two weeks ago... now this, and I now qualify for 3 months of COV/H, Lineage 2, and this beta stuff.

I'd say that original $5 has gone a pretty long way!

I say you never install CoH or Aion for all of our sakes as gamers  (no, I don't care about Lineage 2)

what a shame !

i guess vanilla PVE game + saturated market - the UO faithful that Garriot effectively gave the cold shoulder to - (in the last month) Garriot himself = failure for this game

good riddance imo, but it's good that the company had the common decency to offer some consolation.  that's more than other companies that insisted on promoting and polishing turds, like Flagship, felt the need to do

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by Raltar

We were actually  talking about this in the Tabula Rasa forum.

The reason SoE never shuts a game down, no matter how unpopular or screwed up it may have become, is to pad the value of their all access pass. I mean, if SoE shut games down for the same level of unpopularity that causes NCsoft to shut a game down, they would have pretty much nothing but Everquest going! SWG and Planetside would surely be shut down and I doubt Vanguard or EQ2 would last much longer past that. But if all those games got shut down, what would your all access pass be worth? It would be a subscription to Everquest that costs an extra five dollars is what it would be worth.

On the other hand, NCsoft doesn't have an all access pass. And an all access pass wouldn't really work for them because their most popular games are either free (in the case of Guild Wars) or aimed mostly at the Asain Market (in the case of Lineage). so if they don't have an all access pass, then they are pretty much just flushing money down the toilet by running servers for games that nobody plays. I actually am proud of NCSoft for having the guts to admit when a game is doing poorly and being willing to take action by shutting it down (while also working to keep customers happy by refunding their subscription time and buying them extra games to boot). SoE on the other hand is too stubborn to do this, doesn't care about keeping customers happy and refuses to admit their mistakes. To this day they still tell people what a good idea the NGE was.

 

A little correction is in place.

EverQuest 2 is still doing pretty good! They still have around 250k subscribers, wich isn't bad at all!

It's safe to say that at this moment EverQuest 2 is their best running game at this moment. With EverQuest 1 coming in close second.

The Shadow Odyssey brought in some really great improvements into the game, a lot of people welcomed. So EverQuest 2 isn't going anywhere any time soon. It's here to stay for a long while.

In fact, EverQuest 2 has build up a very loyal fanbase, just like with EverQuest 1.  That's the advantage you have with a much older, more mature playerbase. They tend to stick around a lot longer and don't jump from game to game on each opportunity.

And basically, that is exactly the same now with LOTRO.

Cheers

EQ2 has maybe 125K subs left.

SOE has maybe 250K subs TOTAL across all games!