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Scaredgirl  11/26/08 6:45:36 AM

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It's really simple. They are waiting for the DX10 client.

FC is hoping for a Christmas miracle. They are hoping people would come back so FC didn't need to do so much merging.

If they do a server merges BEFORE DX10, two things might happen:

1. They do a merge and have about 3-4 servers. DX10 client comes to live. People want to try it and many resubscribe. Problem is those 3-4 servers are full again and they need to open new ones.

2. They do a merge and have about 3-4 servers. They get bad PR because they had to merge servers. DX10 client comes to live. Not so many people resubscribe because they believe AoC is dying.

Both these scenarios are bad for FC so they want to delay server merges until AFTER DX10 client is up and running.

I know server merge takes time but we've been hearing promises for MONTHS. It does not take that long to merge servers. If they REALLY wanted to merge servers as soon as possible, Craig would have assigned a team on it and it would have been done in a WEEK. But they DIDN'T want to do it fast, instead they gave us new mammoths. My bet is, it's all because of DX10.

DX10 is FC's last desperate act to get their servers back to medium population. I'm sure many will return to see what DX10 looks like. Are good graphics enough to save the game from the curse of FTP? We will see.

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Originally posted by Frobner
"Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.

Deathstrike2  11/26/08 6:52:55 AM

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You're probably right, but better graphics aren't what's going to save AoC.  At this point, DX10 is like putting lipstick on a pig.

 
IKShadow  11/26/08 6:53:36 AM

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Maybe you are right.

However the current servers can support 800.000 players and let assume AoC have 150k-250k of existing active subscriber ( there is a difference active sub and active player ) .. there is no way that DX10 would bring the old numbers back, maybe will they keep more of existing subscribers and get 10% of old ones.

The fact is servers should be merged and should be merged NOW.

Iam still lucky as I play on Wildsoul EU server and that one is pretty populated, but thats not the case for a lot of other servers.

The best way would be to merge the servers and even open some new ones in January/February when they give some free time to ex subscribers.

There are a lof of players that would like to start on fresh server.

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noggy1980  11/26/08 7:04:20 AM

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I think all the talk about direct x10 suggests funcom have fundementally misunderstood everyone complaining about the lack of dx10. Because so many people commented on the lack of dx10 funcom belives imo that it's a massive issue and that people really care about it but it isn't and they don't. The vast majority of comments about the lack of dx10 were simply people upset with being let down and chosing the most visable and obvious omission to comment on since it says its there on the box and isn't in the game.

I'd bet of the 700,000 people who quit the game I bet none of them did so because the water wasn't pretty enough or because they wanted more impressive lighting.

Getting direct x10 into the game will be a good thing and I'm sure many will enjoy the improved graphics, it will also be one less thing hanging around funcoms neck but if they expect it to have any influence on populations then they are going to be sadly mistaken. They have talked about how much effort they have put in over the last few months getting dx10 ready I feel that effort would have been better spent elsewear.

Of course maybe I'm guilty of assuming everyone feels the same way as me though I'm very confident that the technical quality of graphics wasn't the reason for any cancelations

 

 
Scaredgirl  11/26/08 7:28:02 AM

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Originally posted by noggy1980

I think all the talk about direct x10 suggests funcom have fundementally misunderstood everyone complaining about the lack of dx10.

I'd bet of the 700,000 people who quit the game I bet none of them did so because the water wasn't pretty enough or because they wanted more impressive lighting.

Of course maybe I'm guilty of assuming everyone feels the same way as me though I'm very confident that the technical quality of graphics wasn't the reason for any cancelations

 

Yes, you are right. Good point.

People did not quit because of graphics. Most people agree that graphics in AoC are really good. What FC needs to do is to improve things that people don't like, for example gameplay or lack of fun things to do.

My own opinion regarding AoC graphics differs from most people. I actually didn't like the graphics that much. Honestly. I just don't find AoC graphics "pretty". It's difficult to explain but somehow AoC graphics are just generic to me. I don't get that wow factor.

One example. I tried this FTP MMO, Requiem: Bloodymare. When I got to the first city I was amazed. It had this beautiful gothic architecture, everything was dark and gritty, the atmosphere was amazing. I just stood there and looked around. I've never done this is AoC.

If you look graphics only technically, polygon counts etc., Requiem: Bloodymare is no match for AoC. However imo it's much "prettier" to look at. It's like you have 2 paintings. One is made by combining thousands of  different colors and painting techiques, while other one is made with only 3 colors but with a beautiful simplistic balance that makes it true art. More complex is not always better.

I'm a huge fan of Conan books. The author Robert Jordan is lucky he died before he could see what FC did to Hyboria. What you see in AoC is not the real Hyboria. Real Hyboria is a dark, unholy place with murderers and rapists around every corner. I was sorry to see FC failed to deliver that. Maybe they wanted their game to look more like WoW (bright happy colors) to attract younger gamers.

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Originally posted by Frobner
"Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.

Grunties  11/26/08 7:39:21 AM

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I believe people complained about dx10 because it was a lie printed on the box. It wasn't the lack of dx10 that was the problem, lots of games don't have dx10 and are just fine. People objected to the blatent lie, and the carrot on a stick promises to have it in soon after release that followed, that funcom used to retain subscriptions.

Getting dx10 in now, with the boxes on store shelves having listed the game as having dx10 for the past half year or so, doesn't wipe that slate clean for funcom. The lies don't just vanish once funcom has dx10 in game. Getting dx10 in now doesn't correct their mistake. Because the real mistake was in their business practices, and not in their feature list. Though the feature list probably has some pretty glaring problems as well.

The boxes should have been recalled and a correct feature list put on the box, there should have been a public apology, and everyone that bought the game before this was accomplished should have been fully reimbursed their money, back when the game had just been released. Having waited this long and done nothing, they have not addressed the real problem.

 

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Azrile  11/26/08 9:18:21 AM

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AOC has the numbers in front of them.   They do not need to do server mergers, the players have already done it.  The dead servers are completely dead.   Actually doing server mergers would be a PR problem and would probably move only a few thousand players.

It's basically exactly the same thing Warhammer is doing to avoid the stygma of 'server mergers'.  They put a little pop-op on 60% of their servers telling new players that those servers are low population and encouraging them to roll on higher population servers.  but the low population servers are still technically accessible, so warhammer doesn't have to admit mergers.

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noggy1980  11/26/08 9:56:42 AM

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warhammer has free character and guild transfers, thats very different to doing nothing. In warhammer this is pretty much the same as a server merge but it wouldn't be as good in AoC due to the City system.

 
Frobner  11/26/08 10:12:15 AM