Age of Conan

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by arkady09

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by Gurtelrose

All the AoC fanboys came out stating how this was going to be the greatesr MMO ever and kill the WoW subscriber base. I played it for 2½ months. The starter area was good and then the game went downhill straight from there. A total waste of $50.

Cough! not all mate and you know it. If you played for 2 1/2 months (10weeks?) and say average gamer plays 20 hrs a week? Not bad for 25cents or 14pence per hour easy it. Even if $50 plus 3 month sub = about 48 cents per hour. Im guessing you played more than 20 hrs per week for the first while though :)

I would call that value for money :)

He doesnt get to decide what is and what is not 'value for HIS money' ? I mean ROFL

Well you have to ask yourself why would you play it for 2 1/2 months if it was not value or gained some entertainment value from the game - I mean - C'mon.

I agree with arkady09. YOU are not the one who decides what is "value for HIS money".

Think about it like this. You go see 2 movies which both cost 10 bucks. One is 2 hours long and entertaining. Other one is 10 hours and sucks. First one has $5/hour "value for money" second one $1/hour "value for money.

Now you think the second movie has better "value for money" only because it lasts longer even if it sucked? That is just stupid.

He himself said it was "A total waste of $50". This is how he FEELS about AoC. It's his personal feeling and nothing you do or say, can change that fact.

The real question is, why did he keep on playing for 10 weeks? Why didn't he quit after 3-4 weeks like many others?

Maybe he didn't play that much? Maybe he only reached the boring endgame in about 8 weeks?

Maybe he had bought 3 months of playtime and he "had" to play?

Or maybe he was like me. Maybe he was hoping so much to finally find a good pvp game that he was willing to give FC a chance to fix the game and he was willing to pay for "beta". Unfortunately not all things can be fixed and once he saw that he quit.

Originally posted by _Shadowmage

 

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Originally posted by slask777
Even though Craig dodge the question about the subscribers, he can't pull a white one on the annual report. In the second quarter 2008, AoC had over 400k subscribers. That's quite the respectable number is you ask me. That report and it's numbers prove the trolls and naysayers are full of shit, but nothing new there
Funcom Q2 2008 annual report
They do experience a drop in revenues, but we still are in a global recession so they feel the effect of it as bad as anyone else do.
Edit:To the clueless troll below me, nope I'm not a fanboy of the game. I don't even like it, nor do I play it. I'm just trying to bring some facts to the table as there is way too much guesswork going around about the game, and other games aswell too for that matter. Just have to wait for their next report to check those numbers again. To you guys who say the game is dying, why would Funcom put most of their effort into it if it's dying?Besides if you check Q3 they earned more revenues compared to Q2 so what does that tell us, hmmm? So stop talking out your ass. That goes for all the other trolls and naysayers aswell.

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Lol - they lost 50% of customers in the first 6 weeks - hardly a glowing report. And to qoute from their Q3 report All games experience this after launch so your point is what? A shitload of people who buy whatever game will leave it after the first month. Just the way things work. Even WoW had this going on at first but Blizzard gain 2 customers for everyone that leaves it seems. That ball just keep on rolling for some reason. WoW's a good game, but it's not that good. I would've liked to see the numbers on how many people leave WoW each month. I imagine that number is quite high.

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After the very strong launch period, the average
subscription period for Age of Conan has been
shorter than expected and this has led to a
reduction in subscriber levels in the period.

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Also not a glowing report. Perhaps you need to learn to read. If you haven't noticed it yet, we are in what we grownups call a global recession. Look it up and learn a thing or two. Anyway, they expected WoW-like numbers and didn't get it. So the picture not as bad as you want it to be.

However I would think that an xbox360 version would be a good thing for the PC players as to release on the xbox the game would need to be pretty much bug free. Also the xbox has lower graphics processing power and less memory so they would need to improve the performance/memory useage. All bonuses for the PC players.

 

Haha, I can't believe I'm on AmazingAvery's side on this one. I never agree with anything that man post

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Someone want to explain what part of "it's still in the works" they don't understand in relation to the 360 development question?

Plus and anyone explain why is it the Hardcore "I don't like AoC" group (doesn't sub either)  who wants to know sub numbers? I can't understand why there are no posts in the LOTRO forums or EQ2 on the matter considering thats just 2 games that don't release numbes officially. Crazy..

Mabye it's because people are on a vendetta because AoC adversly effected their lives to such a great extent? who knows.. 

You can bet the group that doesn't like AoC is the same that was probably begging on general chat for lessons on how to use the combat system. Try to find one person that is good at this game trolling around the forum.

Originally posted by drag9999

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Someone want to explain what part of "it's still in the works" they don't understand in relation to the 360 development question?

Plus and anyone explain why is it the Hardcore "I don't like AoC" group (doesn't sub either)  who wants to know sub numbers? I can't understand why there are no posts in the LOTRO forums or EQ2 on the matter considering thats just 2 games that don't release numbes officially. Crazy..

Mabye it's because people are on a vendetta because AoC adversly effected their lives to such a great extent? who knows.. 

 

You can bet the group that doesn't like AoC is the same that was probably begging on general chat for lessons on how to use the combat system. Try to find one person that is good at this game trolling around the forum.

I don't like it, and I had absolutely no problem playing Simon Says...er... I mean using AoCs combat controls. Gotta stop making those assumptions, or you'll go broke with bets like that.

Originally posted by courtsdad

Itsa good theory but doesnt explain the lies they told early one. We'll right that one off to a lack of morals by management and their PR people.
 

Companies "lie" (emblish would be the word they would use but to many people they are lies) all of the time while doing their marketing.It when they cant back it up or the product doesnt have enough other things going for it that its gets them in trouble.

As far as giving a damn well thats subjective. Yes they ( any business) give a damn because they want your money but that does not mean that they act with your interests in mind or that they do a good job in dealing with customers.

The lies they told at start is to be blamed on one person. One person that was Game director and a complete retard at it too. The guy was too full of himself rather then realizing what he was doing. After the new GD took over funny enough there hasn't been any lies, communication is down to earth and the devs that posts and gets interviewed are also down to earth and pretty much being realistic about the issues with the game.

Gaute as a GD wasn't that, no matter how severe the issues was he would sit there and talk about how awesome the game is, how awesome the players feel it is. if asked about the issues he would just say we are aware some players are having trouble, this will be fixed next patch. Without knowing for sure I'm pretty sure Gaute didn't quit by his free will, he was told to quit or they fired him. And it is the best thing funcom ever has done to AoC. Finally we have a GD that doesn't pretend the game is better then it is. and they are actually improving it too rather then pretedning if they close their eyes and ears everything will be ok.

Originally posted by courtsdad

Itsa good theory but doesnt explain the lies they told early one. We'll right that one off to a lack of morals by management and their PR people.
 

Companies "lie" (emblish would be the word they would use but to many people they are lies) all of the time while doing their marketing.It when they cant back it up or the product doesnt have enough other things going for it that its gets them in trouble.

As far as giving a damn well thats subjective. Yes they ( any business) give a damn because they want your money but that does not mean that they act with your interests in mind or that they do a good job in dealing with customers.

No it doesn't epxplain all the lies and misinformation. I dont know why companies do that? Funcom is not the first nor the last one to "lie". Lies work well for PR and atract new clients, but thats a short term benefit. In the long run it will hit them so bad they may not even recover from it.

I could never understand the misinformation like "FREE TO PLAY" with big letters and then tiny text at the bottom "for the first week". I mean, wouldn't it be easier to just say "free to try for a week"? Its the same message but without any hidden intentions. Misadvertising like in the first case always leaves a sour taste in my mouth. It just doesn't make sense to do it that way because people get pissed when they dont notice the hiddem text. They think they got cheated. And they would be right!

I also work for a small company, a telecom company, but I practice honest business. Even when our company screws up, I apologize and offer some kind of resolution, including a some kind of compensation for the screw up. Very often this turns people from angry client to a happy client. But, i guess, this is not how Funcom is doing things.

Originally posted by Crashloop

The lies they told at start is to be blamed on one person. One person that was Game director and a complete retard at it too. The guy was too full of himself rather then realizing what he was doing. After the new GD took over funny enough there hasn't been any lies, communication is down to earth and the devs that posts and gets interviewed are also down to earth and pretty much being realistic about the issues with the game.

How do you know it was Gaute you told them all to lie? Did he say in a meeting: "Ok, guys. Today we are all going to lie our ass off!". While Gaute was one of the main liers, I don't think he is not the only one to blame. Just go see any EE interview and you will know what I'm talking about. Gaute was just a scape goat who quit FC restore confidence in investors and players.

Yes, since Craig took over, we haven't seen much lying. You know why that is? Because it's difficult to lie about a game when everyone can log in at any time and see the truth for themselves. I mean EE can't talk about massive siege battles with hundreds and hundreds of players when we all know it's 48vs48.

Hyping and lying is much easier before launch. And there HAVE been subtle lies every month since Craig took over. He himself said they are working on server merges when everyone knows they are doing NOTHING about it. If they WERE working on it, it would have been done already. They are just feeding community this crap how "it is so difficult to merge servers! " and they need many MONTHS to do it, when in reality they could do it in a WEEK if they really wanted to. They are just waiting for Christmas miracle in form of DX10 client.