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singsofdeath  11/25/08 12:20:33 PM

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Originally posted by Sabiancym
Originally posted by singsofdeath
Originally posted by Sabiancym
Originally posted by miagisan

and you know this how?

have you heard about the game's features? tell me about the classes? quests? storyline? crafting?

 

OH WAIT...HAHAH...you CAN'T!


 

And neither can you, so what's to say we're wrong and you're not?

 

Nothing. But at least we don't attempt to pass off our thoughts as fact. Like someone in this thread saying that his opinion is 150% guaranteed to be true.


 

Oh cmon, it's called exaggeration, it's a literary device to show a strong opinion on something.

 

And damn near every post on this board has people saying "This game will be the best game ever."!

 

How is that any different?

 

Nothing. If a man jumps off a bridge, do you jump, too?

 

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you people. Just because there's extremist flamers and fanbois around, why do you have to sink to their level.

 

And posting a supposed outcome of a game that makes it look bad, and then citing that as truth, regardless of if you want to exaggerate or not, is aggrevating at best. Just as agrrevating as people who say this game will be the second coming.

Sabiancym  11/25/08 12:26:19 PM

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Originally posted by singsofdeath
Originally posted by Sabiancym
Originally posted by singsofdeath
Originally posted by Sabiancym
Originally posted by miagisan

and you know this how?

have you heard about the game's features? tell me about the classes? quests? storyline? crafting?

 

OH WAIT...HAHAH...you CAN'T!


 

And neither can you, so what's to say we're wrong and you're not?

 

Nothing. But at least we don't attempt to pass off our thoughts as fact. Like someone in this thread saying that his opinion is 150% guaranteed to be true.


 

Oh cmon, it's called exaggeration, it's a literary device to show a strong opinion on something.

 

And damn near every post on this board has people saying "This game will be the best game ever."!

 

How is that any different?

 

Nothing. If a man jumps off a bridge, do you jump, too?

 

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you people. Just because there's extremist flamers and fanbois around, why do you have to sink to their level.

 

And posting a supposed outcome of a game that makes it look bad, and then citing that as truth, regardless of if you want to exaggerate or not, is aggrevating at best. Just as agrrevating as people who say this game will be the second coming.

 

Ok, spend time arguing with the SWTOR fanbois now, because they're just as bad right?  Or do you only pull that argument out on someone negative about the game so you can appear to be the unbiased mediator?

 
tillamook  11/25/08 12:27:46 PM

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meh, I'm just gonna wait till open beta to pass any judgment. If it sucks then I won't play, plain and simple. At this point though I do like how they aren't really getting people's hopes up and over hyping shit with information on features that may not make it . 

What's worse? A lot of promises they will never follow thru on? Or little information? Many MMOs fail because of broken promises.


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singsofdeath  11/25/08 12:28:08 PM

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Originally posted by Sabiancym

 

Ok, spend time arguing with the SWTOR fanbois now, because they're just as bad right?  Or do you only pull that argument out on someone negative about the game so you can appear to be the unbiased mediator?

 

Please link me to a fanboi that states this game will be huge and super-great and have everything anyone has ever dreamed off. I will use the same arguments against him, I swear.

Sabradin  11/25/08 4:33:51 PM

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Originally posted by infrared1
Originally posted by Sabradin

disreguard the title of this thread and listen to this

MMOs are about time-investing grinds

it is THE thing that seperates it from other games such as FPS

WE NEED / WANT these

inexperienced (or unwise) singles who wish to bastardize the MMO for some stupid sandbox idea are not thinking clearly!

they're the type that would here the ideas of communism and go "Yeah! that sounds right!"

they dont stop to think that it doesnt work! lol

and anyway sandbox mmo doesnt even sound right

ask yourself this question, if you think sandbox mmo might be good, why would you have levels (which are necessary to be considered an MMO) in the first place if all you want to do is play a game where everything is flat and everyone is equal (except for skill)?  You might as well play an FPS game.. because an FPS game already provides that skill-based system (without the annoyance of some stupid levels)

no, in MMOs you have the significant difference from FPS games.. skill is not enough.  You have to be willing to invest the time into what you're going to do

cheer for the time-invest!


 

Blah blah blah.......blah blah blah...... blah blah. Who made you the #1 authority on what a fricken MMO is or should be. Your OPINION is preachy.


 

Your opinion that it sounds "preachy" is also, preachy.

We can go on eternally about emotions and motives/styles

if you'd like to focus or talk about the facts id like to

 
buegur  11/25/08 8:35:32 PM

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"And damn near every post on this board has people saying "This game will be the best game ever."!

 

How is that any different?"
 

 

Or you can reverse that and say nearly every other post is a disgrunted gamer going out of his way to ditch a game not even fully designed yet!  Imagine that, fanboys on a Star Wars forums board, oh my!  Quess you thought you would find Vanguard fans here instead?

 
infrared1  11/26/08 11:42:44 AM

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Originally posted by Sabradin
Originally posted by infrared1
Originally posted by Sabradin

disreguard the title of this thread and listen to this

MMOs are about time-investing grinds

it is THE thing that seperates it from other games such as FPS

WE NEED / WANT these

inexperienced (or unwise) singles who wish to bastardize the MMO for some stupid sandbox idea are not thinking clearly!

they're the type that would here the ideas of communism and go "Yeah! that sounds right!"

they dont stop to think that it doesnt work! lol

and anyway sandbox mmo doesnt even sound right

ask yourself this question, if you think sandbox mmo might be good, why would you have levels (which are necessary to be considered an MMO) in the first place if all you want to do is play a game where everything is flat and everyone is equal (except for skill)?  You might as well play an FPS game.. because an FPS game already provides that skill-based system (without the annoyance of some stupid levels)

no, in MMOs you have the significant difference from FPS games.. skill is not enough.  You have to be willing to invest the time into what you're going to do

cheer for the time-invest!


 

Blah blah blah.......blah blah blah...... blah blah. Who made you the #1 authority on what a fricken MMO is or should be. Your OPINION is preachy.


 

Your opinion that it sounds "preachy" is also, preachy.

We can go on eternally about emotions and motives/styles

if you'd like to focus or talk about the facts id like to


 

Preachy.... umm.... OK? I thought I was pretty straight forward. Talk about what? Sounds more like you telling me what I should like. So what's to talk about, you seem to have it all figured out. Just don't tell me what I want or what I need. I'll be my own judge thank you very much.

 
Sabradin  11/26/08 12:27:24 PM

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As the crackling of thorns in a fire, so is the laughter of the fool

Originally posted by infrared1
Originally posted by Sabradin
Originally posted by infrared1
Originally posted by Sabradin

disreguard the title of this thread and listen to this

MMOs are about time-investing grinds

it is THE thing that seperates it from other games such as FPS

WE NEED / WANT these

inexperienced (or unwise) singles who wish to bastardize the MMO for some stupid sandbox idea are not thinking clearly!

they're the type that would here the ideas of communism and go "Yeah! that sounds right!"

they dont stop to think that it doesnt work! lol

and anyway sandbox mmo doesnt even sound right

ask yourself this question, if you think sandbox mmo might be good, why would you have levels (which are necessary to be considered an MMO) in the first place if all you want to do is play a game where everything is flat and everyone is equal (except for skill)?  You might as well play an FPS game.. because an FPS game already provides that skill-based system (without the annoyance of some stupid levels)

no, in MMOs you have the significant difference from FPS games.. skill is not enough.  You have to be willing to invest the time into what you're going to do

cheer for the time-invest!


 

Blah blah blah.......blah blah blah...... blah blah. Who made you the #1 authority on what a fricken MMO is or should be. Your OPINION is preachy.


 

Your opinion that it sounds "preachy" is also, preachy.

We can go on eternally about emotions and motives/styles

if you'd like to focus or talk about the facts id like to


 

Preachy.... umm.... OK? I thought I was pretty straight forward. Talk about what? Sounds more like you telling me what I should like. So what's to talk about, you seem to have it all figured out. Just don't tell me what I want or what I need. I'll be my own judge thank you very much.


 

I talked about facts and opinion.  Nothing wrong with that.

You can want sandbox MMO, sure.  But just as a sandbox MMO player want to encourage other people to like sandbox MMO, I want to discourage them from liking sandbox MMO and encouraging them instead to like FPS when they want to play a game based on skill, and a themepark MMO when they feel like playing a game based on time-investing.

Sandbox MMO may be your thing, but its not for me.  And I have no problem discouraging other people from playing it, as I see the more people playing themepark MMO (specifically Star Wars TOR), the better.