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Elikal  12/01/08 1:09:51 AM

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WOW is not my kind of game, but anyone who says WOW hasnt brought a ton of changes to the MMO genre is simply fooling himself. You may really make a difference between "changes I like" and "changes which became influental".

The genius of the Blizzard devs is not inventing everything new, but perfecting things and making them popular. They didnt invent radar or symbols over quest givers head, but they caused those things to become standard in most MMOs. Is just as it IS. Now you are free to hate those changes, but saying they dont exist is like covering your eyes with your hands and yelling "you cant see me".

Yelling someone down because he is 18 and WOW his frist MMO is plain dumb. If experience would make humans wiser we would have a gerontocracy and live in paradise by now.

I really would like to know what this phasing exactly is? Can someone describe it to me please?

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Daffid011  12/01/08 1:50:09 AM

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Originally posted by Blodpls
Originally posted by Novaseeker 

Yet again another example of Blizzard taking the genre in the wrong direction. 

 

I agree.

 

I just love the double standards in these forums and how nothing can't be laid to rest at the feet of success.

 

A) Warcraft just copies everything from other games.  It didn't create a single new thing.

B) WoW is taking the market in the wrong direction.

 

Those two statements make me really chuckle.  So which is it?  Blizzard is doing everything that everyone else has already done or they are blazing a trail to a bad destination?

 

How many games have to fail before we blame the companies that make them?  When will companies start making games that are FUN instead of making games they think will get a share of the market.  When will companies stop releasing their game premature and wonder why people leave after a month. 

When will players realize Blizzard can't stop a company from making a fun innovative game and releasing it when it is ready. 


There are millions of people waiting to play a new game.  As soon as you ask the question of why they are not sticking around other games it become obvious it is not Blizzards fault.  Just look at the large amount of MMOs that have been canceled, licenses traded, merging servers a few months after release, companies gone out of business, etc etc. 

 

The market is heading in the wrong direction, because so many companies have gold fever seeing Blizzards numbers and forget they are making games and games need to be fun.  Games that are not designed to be fun don't succeed in todays market. 

 

Blizzard is taking the market in the right direction if other companies would choose to look at what is important.  Waiting to release the game until it is ready.  Open communication with players and fine tuning their products based on customer feedback.  Everything they are doing as a business builds good results.  Blizzard as a business is doing everything right and those lessons can be applied to any type of MMO, hardcore/casual/pve/pvp. 

 

Phasing for example is fun and has a lot of potential right now.  It gave me a few really big WOW factor moments in the game.  Cool stuff that can really add more atmosphere if built upon.  I don't care if Blizzard did it first or not as long as companies keep using it to add value to their games.  I'm glad the game isn't littered with phasing, because to much might be over kill.  Also since it is new (at least to WoW) it still has some areas it can expand to. 

 

 

 
Aethios  12/01/08 1:51:25 AM

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Originally posted by Daffid011

So which is it?  Blizzard is doing everything that everyone else has already done or they are blazing a trail to a bad destination?

 

They can't do both? They don't seem mutually exclusive to me.

 
bluesession  12/01/08 2:01:33 AM

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Originally posted by strategy

And for those who think they saw phasing at work in the Sunwell patch (2.4), let me say that compares to the phasing used in WotLK as the first telephone with the new I-Phone.

 

I'm not quoting you to discredit your opinion or anything, but as i red this sentence i coulnd't help but giggle.

Did you know how many people complains on how they new I-Phone sucks? here

www.who-sucks.com/tech/15-reasons-why-apples-iphone-sucks

and also the google results for "I-Phone Sucks"

www.google.com/search

Don't take it too seriously, i just found it funny.

 
Ravanos  12/01/08 2:24:08 AM

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WoW fans ... like some options in another game? don't worry most likely Blizzard will rip it off and use it as thier own.

 
TheHavok  12/01/08 2:37:39 AM

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ginetti  12/01/08 2:55:20 AM

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Originally posted by Spaceweed10
 

What a load of rubbish.  WoW hasn't brought a SINGLE new idea to MMO's.  All it has done is made the genre accessible to idiots.

 

Mate, you're an elitist

You're just sore because

 

1) MMORPG is no longer a niche area, now millions more play because of wow, and you don't feel as special.

2) WoW killed your favorite MMORPG and now you hate it.

3) You're an elitist. (sans being elite)

 

You can't deny all of the above, some but not all. 

 

Ciao for now.

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timmyjames  12/01/08 2:59:43 AM

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Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by timmyjames

phasing?  phasing you say?  the only phasing that has stuck in my mind is the larger scale "phasing" that i experienced...

 

 

man i can't wait to get to 60

 

at this, this is kinda fun...oh an xpac

 

wth, all my stuff is trash..o well, let me get to 70, then i'll rock

 

yay, i am 70..cool, no this sux...i need rep and gear

 

sweet i got a zillion rep for that one item...oh, but now i need honor

 

7,000,000 battlegrounds later,,,nice now i stand a chance in arena..o wait

 

I'm not the right class....at least i can get some arnea gear

 

nice!  what?  next season...hmmm, more honor grinding

 

darn this sux, maybe some PvE....1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1

 

lame


 

So play something else. Many people enjoy the constant striving to make the character better.

Many games work this way.

hmmm here is something that might explain it "sort of". You'll have to watch it for a bit but it's kind of funny and I'm sure many of you know this guy...

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/9-Tabula-Rasa

 

Not that is matters, but yeah, I quit awhile ago (and got lucky making my money back too). 

That is a darn funny video though.

 
andeemann10  12/01/08 3:05:28 AM

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Originally posted by ginetti
Originally posted by Spaceweed10
 

What a load of rubbish.  WoW hasn't brought a SINGLE new idea to MMO's.  All it has done is made the genre accessible to idiots.

 

 

Mate, you're an elitist

 

You're just sore because

1) MMORPG is no longer a niche area, now millions more play because of wow, and you don't feel as special.

2) WoW killed your favorite MMORPG and now you hate it.

3) You're an elitist. (sans being elite)

You can't deny all of the above, some but not all.

Ciao for now.

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You're the one that rates WoW 10/10. Seriously, how the hell could you consider WoW PERFECT? No game deserves a 10/10.

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Xasapis  12/01/08 3:27:11 AM