Vanguard: Saga of Heroes

vanguard isnt dead on the pve servers but dead on the pvp server just because of the no reward system and lack of balancing the classes.

gu7 hopefully can change a lot of this but if you really want to get a sense of the game go to their official forums.

http://forums.station.sony.com/vg/forums/list.m

Originally posted by GGaFx

... if you really want to get a sense of the game go to their official forums.

How about, just download the 14 day free trial and take it for a run round the block?

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Originally posted by DarkRanger65

Has the release of the expansions to EQ2, LOTRO and WOW put the final nail in the coffin for this game?

 

I played VG for a month and the lag and low FPS killed it for me.....not to mention some of the bugs

Other game releases cause some temporary dips in the population.  But overall, the population has been increasing steadily for quite some time now with a nice surge due to IoD.

The pop is this game is terrible. I have given up after 3 level 50 toons and playing since beta. Vanguard has no soul,this is what`s missing from this game. I bought the LOTRO with the new MOM and the buzz i am getting plus the overall feel of the world makes vanguard feel like a dead husk.

I have DX10 and everything whacked up to ultra max,and i mean everything, the world looks fantastic

EQ2 feels more alive than VG, Vanguard is static.

I am sorry to say it but VG is a dead world with no soul.

If you want to try lotro give me a pm.

These^^^^ idiots are my favorite...

" I played the game for 2 years, got 3 chars to end game and did everything I could in the game. It sucks."

if it sucks so bad why did you play so long?

I just came back and I played  for a year after launch and loved it all.

I am on sartok and I like how it is right now. low pop, but a big community.

Originally posted by metalcore

Who cares if Eve is a sand box and VG isn't?

Who cares if VG is more of a sand box than Eve?

Basically these descriptions of games vary immensely from person to person, its a matter of opinion.

I personally think VG is more a Sandbox than a Roller coaster but the definition of Sandbox changes daily on this site...

Who cares?

 

I guess the lesson here is that what a game is depends upon how you play it.  Simple as that.

Some friends and I just re-subbed, however this time on Xeth due to the PVP server being a ghost town (sad panada) . So far we are having a blast, and the game actually feels immersive(sp).

I just resubbed to Vanguard yesterday. I have on an 20 bard as highest. So I decided to make a new toon and play on the starter island. I have to say, you get better stuff right off the bat on the island than i ever got before.

I played the beta and a little after release and I couldn't play this game. Literally. Now it feels just right so far. It is as polish as any other mmo i have played (not as polished as WoW though).

As to the post ealier about the real differences between Eve and Vanguard:

Wow. I haven't thought about it like that before. You guys just opened something up in my brian and changed the way I think about how sandbox games should be. Eve ISN'T any more open that Wow or Vanguard or whatever is. You can craft, get recipes, PvP etc.

I guess the question then is what features make a game so great as to call it a true Sandbox?

My dream mmo:

I appear (either in 1st person or 3rd) in some mountain area. There is no one around and all I have on my person is a loin cloth. My stanima starts to drop because I am hungry. As I wonder around the mountain lush with trees and brush, I come upon a stream. I take a drink of water from the stream and notice fish swimming about. I try grabbing at the fish on for the fish to swim through my fingers. 

So I look around for something to help me catch the fish. I break off a tree branch from a near by tree. The end of the stick is in no condition to spear a fish, so I find some stones to break and shave the edge of the stick into a spear. It takes a while to get the fish but I catch it.

I can eat the fish raw, but I might get sick. (gonna long story short this up)

I make a fire, cook the fish and eat it causing my stanima (and maybe things like strength) return to normal depending on how hungry i was.

So this goes on and maybe i fashion things together and build a home and find other people along the way. we find more people and end up having a village. that grows.  (history happens) you die when you die. Maybe even of old age. you can have kids or have some point were if you die and have a family you can start off as one of your kids. etc.

That is how I wish an mmo would be some day.