World of Warcraft

Personally i hate World of Warcraft, i'm only posting in this thread as the title caught my eye and it is a damned good review of the game for potential new players to it...  well wrote out, well organised and it does state the bad with the good which is often forgotten about by other people.

Well done OP.

When do blizzard employees stop posting advertising posts on sites like this...

Originally posted by Zayne3145

Originally posted by Swiftblade13

Part6:  Whats the downside?-

The biggest downside of WoW really applies only to us MMO veterans from the old school games.  WoW lacks some features that us old timers really miss from other games... things like player housing, challenging crafting, harsh death penalties, and "meaningful" PvP (meaning where you can actually take over parts of the world or loot the other players items). 

This is exactly why vets need to stay away from WoW. It's not for them.

I think a lot of WoW hate stems from people who come into the game and want it to be something that it is quite clearly not. If there was a perfect MMO out there that catered for the hardcore, I'm pretty sure there wouldn't be anywhere near as much WoW hate as the vets would be too busy enjoying themselves, rather than lamenting the state of the industry and blaming WoW for everything.

Well, not so much in terms of "blaming WoW for everything", but before WoW came out, MMOs were developed with quite a different focus.

There wasn't this mad rush to "race to end game". The content from 1 to level cap wasn't deemed mere filler to be powered through as fast as possible. The "real game" didn't start when you reached the "end".

The "real game" in pre-WoW MMORPGs started at level 1 and lasted as long as you chose to play it. Level cap was some far off, nebulous thing that you'd reach... eventually. The important part was enjoying what you were doing during that play session. Players set goals along the way and then invested the time to achieve them.

Reaching end-game in post-WoW MMO's seems to have become an analog for "beating the game".

I never heard people complain about how long it was taking to get to level cap in AC, AO, UO or any number of other MMOs, because getting there wasn't "the main goal" of the game. It didn't "take  too long" because we weren't in a hurry to get there in the first place. Sure there were those who made that their goal.. but they were the exception, not the rule.

And that's the main difference between pre-WoW and post-WoW MMORPGs and, by extension, their players. The focus and pacing of the gameplay is entirely different.

In my opinion, WoW took the concept of a MMORPG, demoted some of the classic RPG element (exploration, experimentation, trial-and-error), and turned it more into a fast-paced  multiplayer action game.

Because Warcraft was already such a hugely popular franchise is a big reason why I think so many came to the genre. They weren't looking to play a MMO. They wanted to play the new Warcraft game... which just happened to be a MMO. Something that underscores this is that, to this day, there are people who still think Blizzard started the MMO genre. They had never heard of the genre before.

It also caters to a generation who is - in ways far beyond just gaming - less patient and who want everything faster. Microwaves don't cook quickly enough. Fast food isn't "fast" enough. Everyone wants more, and they want it now; not later. WoW caters perfectly to that mindset.

So I wouldn't put it in such damning terms as to say "WoW is to blame for what MMOs are like...". But it would be dishonest to pretend that it hasn't had a major impact on the direction they've taken.

Originally posted by slask777

Originally posted by TalRasha

Originally posted by slask777

WoW's pvp is WoW's pvp. It's made for the general public aswell. It's a meaningless grind to get shiny's. Some people praise it's pvp, the battlegrounds and arena's, calling them hardcore and epic. This is bollocks as you can afk gain pvp epics, and lots of people do just that. You don't even have to pvp to get them as in the Arenas you start with 1500 points to spend on shinys and its so easy to exploit to get those epics it's laughable.

 

That is a lie. You start with 1500 rating, and 0 points to spend.

 

I dislike those arenas myself, and the mechanic behind it to get items. But disliking it is still not enough reason to lie about it.

 

Well, then they changed it since I last played WoW. The free arena points was where the term welfare epics originated.

I honestly do not think you have even played wow.

The term "Welfare Epics" was introduced when players could purchase Season 1 and 2 arena gear for the price of Honor points. Which are far easier to get and less time consuming to get than any of the true arena sets.

Hardcore players were upset because the gear they had been farming their asses off in Kara, heroics, and pretty much anything not T6 or higher for months.... Now this armor could  be bought by simply farming out some BG's and the gear was actually on the same playing field as the PvE gear just more PvP oriented with such stats as resilience.

PvE players got pissy about it, and dubbed the armor "Welfare Epics". Meaning they didn't have to work hard for it, it was just a gimme item.

However even the "Welfare Epics" had to be earned, you still had to do shit tons of BG's to get a full set and if you wanted the T6 equal of a "Welfare Epic" you had to put in the arena time, which the points are granted weekly off a calculator of how much you will get per week, according to rounds played and matches won. Arena armor is by far harder to get than Honor Gear. When I say harder I mean more time consuming. Plus you have to be somewhat good at arena because the gear is rating locked. Meaning if you lose a lot and never win, you can forget about ever getting certain sections of the armor.

To my knowledge, there has never been free points just given out, or free arena points to just buy whatever in the hell you want.

When the Wrath patch was introduced, Priest and Warlocks, along with certain items and a weapon for S2-S4 were free for that 1 day only, I do not know if that was a bug glitch or if blizzard intended for it to be that way, I never looked into that. That occurred though for 1 day only.

Oh and there is that Arena tournament server, where if you pay an extra fee, you can make a max level toon and be given any set of gear you want to compete. This isn't real WoW though, that the Cyber Athlete WoW shit.

Other than that, your statement is bullshit.

Originally posted by Kordesh

 Your version of "truth" differs vastly from mine...you lost me at "most successful" and "high quality"

he said it was his "opinion" did you even read it? 

Dont play games you dont like, play the ones you do..geesh.

Originally posted by Antaran

Personally i hate World of Warcraft, i'm only posting in this thread as the title caught my eye and it is a damned good review of the game for potential new players to it...  well wrote out, well organised and it does state the bad with the good which is often forgotten about by other people.

Well done OP.

no offense, but how is it even possible to "hate" a bunch of pixels?

Originally posted by Channce

Originally posted by Antaran

Personally i hate World of Warcraft, i'm only posting in this thread as the title caught my eye and it is a damned good review of the game for potential new players to it...  well wrote out, well organised and it does state the bad with the good which is often forgotten about by other people.

Well done OP.

 

no offense, but how is it even possible to "hate" a bunch of pixels?

thats a good point, i'll rephrase..   i'm not too keen on the gameplay and how things are done, my first ever MMO was SWG a long long time ago, so i'm kinda spoiled when it comes to wanting complex gameplay.. but as much as i'm not keen on WoW, it's success speaks for itself.

Originally posted by Channce

Originally posted by Antaran

Personally i hate World of Warcraft, i'm only posting in this thread as the title caught my eye and it is a damned good review of the game for potential new players to it...  well wrote out, well organised and it does state the bad with the good which is often forgotten about by other people.

Well done OP.

 

no offense, but how is it even possible to "hate" a bunch of pixels?

That's like suggesting people who support abortion actually hate babies.

It's a ridiculous notion and you know it. There's much more to Warcraft than just pixels.