Tabula Rasa

Like the Cavalry arriving in the nick of time to save the settlers, deployment 15 arrives....errrr...ok, so they they arrived 2 weeks too late and all the settlers are dead and the structures are all burned.

 www.massively.com/2008/12/01/tabula-rasas-deployment-15-hits-the-public-test-server/

So what are your thoughts on NCSoft now that they have shut down their second "AAA" title in our market. Anyone have cold feet about getting into another one of their games?

How long and at what point will they shut down what they currently have? Just how safe is CoX in the western market? How safe in Lineage 2? Both games pops have been on the decline for a while now. NC apparently has no issue pulling the plug once a game no longer meets their expectations. Will GW go the way of AA and TR once GW2 launches and some of the pops migrate over? GW2 is in direct competition with GW as it is an upgrade from what that game did.

How trusting of NCSoft are you TR guys? They gave you a nice package of free game time but will you use it?

Is it worth YOUR time and money to give NC yet another chance?

Or will you go with the motto: "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, fool me a third time, well how much is that bridge anyway?" as not even 2 months ago NC put out that TR wasn't going anywhere.

www.massively.com/2008/12/01/anti-aliased-youve-been-auto-assaulted/

Originally posted by Torak

Like the Cavalry arriving in the nick of time to save the settlers, deployment 15 arrives....errrr...ok, so they they arrived 2 weeks too late and all the settlers are dead and the structures are all burned.

 www.massively.com/2008/12/01/tabula-rasas-deployment-15-hits-the-public-test-server/

So what are your thoughts on NCSoft now that they have shut down their second "AAA" title in our market. Anyone have cold feet about getting into another one of their games?

How long and at what point will they shut down what they currently have? Just how safe is CoX in the western market? How safe in Lineage 2? Both games pops have been on the decline for a while now. NC apparently has no issue pulling the plug once a game no longer meets their expectations. Will GW go the way of AA and TR once GW2 launches and some of the pops migrate over? GW2 is in direct competition with GW as it is an upgrade from what that game did.

How trusting of NCSoft are you TR guys? They gave you a nice package of free game time but will you use it?

Is it worth YOUR time and money to give NC yet another chance?

Or will you go with the motto: "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, fool me a third time, well how much is that bridge anyway?" as not even 2 months ago NC put out that TR wasn't going anywhere.

www.massively.com/2008/12/01/anti-aliased-youve-been-auto-assaulted/

 

When GW2 comes out I plan to play that. I do not trust NCSoft less, because I never trusted them when they were saying all was fine with TR. All it took was a look at the quarterly reports to know it was losing money, the only question was how long would they wait.

I would think COX and L2 are fine until they become money losers like TR. TR never met expectations from day 1. Those other games have been are I would think still are making them money, but I do think GW will fade away at some point after GW2 is released. GW people have said they plan to run servers as long as there are people, but you have to expect a lot less service by then.

Thing with CoX, and Lineage.... they were success-full games. Tabula Rasa was far from being success-full, and NcSoft wasn't going to break even for a LONG time. So CoX, and Lineage are fine.... NcSoft didn't need a expensive burden on their back with TR. Which was going to cost them to much money to keep, especially with what they were getting in return.

Suck's to see TR go in a few month's, wish it could've been made into a ALOT better game... but crap like this can happen.

I have two more 6-month membership codes for Dungeon Runners and that will probably be it for me with NCSOFT. I got back into AoC and LOTRO and really have no motivation/desire to use their free game time for TR subscribers.

Out of their current line up I prefer DR. I looked up info on Aion and it does not appeal to me. When the beta rolls around I'm sure I'll give it a looksy.

I'm not gonna hold a grudge against NCSoft. They compensated me handsomly for their closing of TR. Taking into account the portions of the compensation gift that I will actually use, I calculated that TR cost me roughly $30 for two accounts covering about 6 months worth of gameplay.

I'll certainly take advantage of their compensation and will probably try their products in the future. I actually blame Richard Garriot for TR's closure much more than NCSoft. I met the dude once and he seemed like an OK guy, but I think he got greedy and grabbed up what he could and took off to space with it. His heart hasn't been in gaming for well over a decade. I think he took advantage of NCSoft's generosity and that may have caused some sour grapes that eventually led to TR's closure.

I'll miss TR, but its no big deal. I hop between MMOG's pretty frequently and with so many cool MMOG's coming out next year I doubt I'd find much time for TR. But with HGL and TR's closure it will be difficult to find a good MMOG for my action RPG fix. TCoS may fill that niche, but I'd prefer a sci-fi or post holocaust setting.

The only part of its closure that really bugs me is all the wasted progress and potential of the game that will never be realized.

Always sad to see an MMO close down and know that the code is just left on the shelf somewhere.  I played TR for 6 months and left when AoC came out.  However it had some brilliant moments in it and some of my greatest MMO moments were in TR.  My first control point defence as an example.  Not enough MMO's out there have NPC's attacking player bases or area.  The combat was smooth and fast, I am yet to see another MMO have that fluid response. 

Even saying all that I personally feel they ignored the RP and crafting element of the game.  PvP should have been a must in this and crafting should have been more complicated to support it.  Flashy games will only hold a mature MMO audience for a few months and then a few like me may stay on.  In a way this may be good for the overall community because I feel WAR is going down the same route and maybe it will take a few companies to lose millions to realise the community needs RPing and other elements to an MMO besides grinding.

This gane is still around?  lol I kid.  Let's not let clowns at that Planet Tabula Rasa web site know I said that, oh wait I don't care about that web site or that guild that runs that site, the bunch of no life people that they are, Chandler, Machka, etcetera.

Now would I trust NC Soft?  Why not, they haven't ripped me off, I don't play TR anymore, it's dead, well soon will be.  If I had a product that was not making money I would cut it loose too.  Guild Wars is a good game and it works for them.  TR was a good idea, but the man that decided to make it got his money and ran.  NC Soft is a company that has a right to pull the plug on something that is a drain on it's profits.  I've bought other games and didn't like them after laying out 49.99, TR only cost me 34.98, which was the cost of the game and the two months I played.  No big deal.

Originally posted by Torak

How long and at what point will they shut down what they currently have? Just how safe is CoX in the western market? How safe in Lineage 2? Both games pops have been on the decline for a while now. NC apparently has no issue pulling the plug once a game no longer meets their expectations. Will GW go the way of AA and TR once GW2 launches and some of the pops migrate over? GW2 is in direct competition with GW as it is an upgrade from what that game did. 

I'm not going to comment on L2 because I don't play asian grinders and I honestly wouldn't care one way or the other what NCSoft does with it. But considering its still pretty popular in Korea I think its safe.

As for CoX, it is a TOTALLY different situation from TR and Auto Assault. CoX is a well established game which has been popular and profitable for many years. This was true for neither TR or AA. AA was just never popular and was just not that great of an idea. Original sure. But the actual game once it was in action was not as great as the idea itself sounded. TR was just a massive embarrassment and I think that was as important in their decision to close it as the money was. Not only did the game cost them over 100 million dollars just to make and not only was it never going to earn enough to repay that amount, they also had to content with the fact that Richard Garriot was making a fool out of NCsoft by pretty much selling them an unfinished game to pay for his trip into outer space. Here they had this big famous game developer and they paid him a crap ton of money to develop what they were told was going to be the next WoW... and instead they got Tabula Rasa while their famous game developer was laughing at them all the way to his russian space rocket. Closing TR was their way of trying to sweep this whole disaster under the rug as quickly as possible and I honestly don't blame them for wanting to put the whole incident behind them ASAP.