General Discussion

I liked DAoC a lot. I thought the grouping was good, the PvE was good, and the PvP was good. I"m talking classic DAoC, the first release before any expansions, definitely before TOA.

However, I did have a big complaint about DAoC. Why, oh why, do I have to wait to get to the fun part of the game, the PvP? I want to PvP RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But if I got to the frontier before I'm max level, I'll get ganked by high level players. Not Fair!!!!!

So along comes WAR and it's seems it's designed with one thing in mind, to fix this problem with PvP. How can we let players PvP RIGHT NOW! ???? but still keep levels for the PvE game.

What a dilemma.

WAR ads "scenarios". you can jump in right now, to an instanced PvP game with objectives like capture the flag. Your stats are raised so levels don't matter.

Oh boy! What fun! I can PvP RIGHT NOW!! no waiting to level!!!

The only problem is, the instances suck all the life out of the open world. Why bother with the PvE to level? I can jump in a scenario and PvP right now. Why bother with the open world RvR? It's empty, because everyone is playing in instanced scenarios.

I got beat in RvR? Who cares, I can just jump into a scenario and play it over and over. Meh.

The solution is worse than the problem, IMO.

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Originally posted by Ihmotepp

However, I did have a big complaint about DAoC. Why, oh why, do I have to wait to get to the fun part of the game, the PvP?

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-demon's breach
-proving grounds
-lions den
-claret
-killaloe
-thid
-braemar
-wilton
-molvik
-leirvik
-cathal

dont worry, devs these days hear folks like you.

They make mmorpg's where you get spoonfed everything "Right Now".

Wonder why players get bored after 1 month hey ?

Just an idea though : there's some cool FPS around, give it a try ?

I like the stat balancing, but I think WAR should focus more on open PvP.

Maybe instead of turning higher level people into chikens, which is funny, they just scale their stats back to the level of that RvR area, so that higher level people can come help lower level people claim keeps and such without completely dominating and so all the action doesn't stick to the senarios and teir 4.

Originally posted by vladww

dont worry, devs these days hear folks like you.

They make mmorpg's where you get spoonfed everything "Right Now".

Wonder why players get bored after 1 month hey ?

Just an idea though : there's some cool FPS around, give it a try ?

I don't think you read the original post.

Originally posted by fulmanfu

 

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Originally posted by Ihmotepp

However, I did have a big complaint about DAoC. Why, oh why, do I have to wait to get to the fun part of the game, the PvP?

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-demon's breach
-proving grounds
-lions den
-claret
-killaloe
-thid
-braemar
-wilton
-molvik
-leirvik
-cathal

I don't recognize anything on that list, but if it's F2P games, then .

those were all daoc battlegrounds lol you never had to wait for pvp in daoc, original daoc had bgs starting at level 20, which was thid... later on they added lower level ones to

Originally posted by Ihmotepp

Originally posted by fulmanfu

 

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Originally posted by Ihmotepp

However, I did have a big complaint about DAoC. Why, oh why, do I have to wait to get to the fun part of the game, the PvP?

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-demon's breach
-proving grounds
-lions den
-claret
-killaloe
-thid
-braemar
-wilton
-molvik
-leirvik
-cathal

 

I don't recognize anything on that list, but if it's F2P games, then .

and you said you played daoc, you should notice these then.

The whole reason I was interested in WAR was the open PvP, but it was epic fail come release.

Surprisingly I just did lake wintergrasp the other day in wow, and it's honestly better designed open rvr content then all of WAR.

You can argue all you like regarding this, but it really is just better.  And it really shows how WoW is truely the better game.

WAR being a RvR game, didn't even have real siege weapons(whoopdeedoo turrets you place at places),

Heck I'm on a PvE server and every time wintergrasp pops, we get about 80v70 battles every single time.  I can't say that about WAR and it's keeps.

So what does this say about war?