I could use a dl link!

https://dev-na.ffxiv.com/

I got my invite for the beta last week. I downloaded and ran the PC benchmark tool: it wasn't pretty.

I'm in!  But I'm already not interested =(   I will give it a spin though and check things out.  Maybe I'm totally wrong, it wouldn't be the first time.

I am curious how a lot of this discussion is not breaking the NDA.  Unless I am reading it incorrectly, even mentioning that you are in beta is against the Beta Tester Agreement.

I am the only one still got:

You could not log in because the service account in question is not registered.
If you would like to log in to the service, please log in to the Square Enix Account Management System and register the service account.??

I didn't get in this round, oh well. X_X

Originally posted by teknician

I am curious how a lot of this discussion is not breaking the NDA.  Unless I am reading it incorrectly, even mentioning that you are in beta is against the Beta Tester Agreement.

How would they know who you are anyway ?

Originally posted by Valdos

Originally posted by teknician

I am curious how a lot of this discussion is not breaking the NDA.  Unless I am reading it incorrectly, even mentioning that you are in beta is against the Beta Tester Agreement.

 

 

How would they know who you are anyway ?

First of all, you would be surprised at how many people use the same screen names.  Second, that is not the point.  It is about following the rules when you are given the opportunity to participate in testing.  Of course I do realize that it is probably a difficult task for many to actually do what they are supposed to.

My point here is not that individuals are breaking the NDA, but that there are NDA breaking discussions going on in general.

Originally posted by teknician

Originally posted by Valdos

Originally posted by teknician

I am curious how a lot of this discussion is not breaking the NDA.  Unless I am reading it incorrectly, even mentioning that you are in beta is against the Beta Tester Agreement.

 

 

How would they know who you are anyway ?

First of all, you would be surprised at how many people use the same screen names.  Second, that is not the point.  It is about following the rules when you are given the opportunity to participate in testing.  Of course I do realize that it is probably a difficult task for many to actually do what they are supposed to.

My point here is not that individuals are breaking the NDA, but that there are NDA breaking discussions going on in general.

 Or think of it this way.....if SE had a distribution system that would allow someone with a 10 meg connection to download better than 25 kbs and it takes 60+ hours, then this discussion would not be going on.

Originally posted by Elidien

Originally posted by teknician

Originally posted by Valdos

Originally posted by teknician

I am curious how a lot of this discussion is not breaking the NDA.  Unless I am reading it incorrectly, even mentioning that you are in beta is against the Beta Tester Agreement.

 

 

How would they know who you are anyway ?

First of all, you would be surprised at how many people use the same screen names.  Second, that is not the point.  It is about following the rules when you are given the opportunity to participate in testing.  Of course I do realize that it is probably a difficult task for many to actually do what they are supposed to.

My point here is not that individuals are breaking the NDA, but that there are NDA breaking discussions going on in general.

 Or think of it this way.....if SE had a distribution system that would allow someone with a 10 meg connection to download better than 25 kbs and it takes 60+ hours, then this discussion would not be going on.

 but if they had more direct download they wouldnt be invinting this many people because it would cost more money so deal with it and be glad you got an invite

Originally posted by teknician

Originally posted by Valdos

Originally posted by teknician

I am curious how a lot of this discussion is not breaking the NDA.  Unless I am reading it incorrectly, even mentioning that you are in beta is against the Beta Tester Agreement.

 

 

How would they know who you are anyway ?

First of all, you would be surprised at how many people use the same screen names.  Second, that is not the point.  It is about following the rules when you are given the opportunity to participate in testing.  Of course I do realize that it is probably a difficult task for many to actually do what they are supposed to.

My point here is not that individuals are breaking the NDA, but that there are NDA breaking discussions going on in general.

 so what there only discussing client download speeds

that sucks averageing 20kbs .. how long is ur beta test schedualled for? do u only have the weekend or is it going to be ongoing?>

When does the actual CB start? maybe connections are being deliberately throttled?? who know's but like others have said you got an invite, suck it and be happy that you even will be able to test it, heck i got no invite but i can tell you this if i did get one i wouldn't be whining like some of you in here because your client does not download fast enough.

Just relax and let it do it's thing, go play another game, take a walk, get laid i don't care but please stop complaining because you have lousy download speeds to a game that plenty of us would love to test but can't and just rubbing it in that you will soon be able to play.

Originally posted by Raxeon

Originally posted by teknician

Originally posted by Valdos

Originally posted by teknician

I am curious how a lot of this discussion is not breaking the NDA.  Unless I am reading it incorrectly, even mentioning that you are in beta is against the Beta Tester Agreement.

 

 

How would they know who you are anyway ?

First of all, you would be surprised at how many people use the same screen names.  Second, that is not the point.  It is about following the rules when you are given the opportunity to participate in testing.  Of course I do realize that it is probably a difficult task for many to actually do what they are supposed to.

My point here is not that individuals are breaking the NDA, but that there are NDA breaking discussions going on in general.

 so what there only discussing client download speeds

Also, depending on the company and the contect of the NDA, you can mention that you are in a beta as well as things such as download speeds without it being considered a breach of NDA. Some companies only care if you mention the actual in game experience or beta forum material.

But, even if the company allows it, some sites may have a strict 'No ANYTHING beta' policy in place, where they don't even want people to make mention of being in beta or alluding to it. 

Originally posted by fyerwall

Originally posted by Raxeon

Originally posted by teknician

Originally posted by Valdos

Originally posted by teknician

I am curious how a lot of this discussion is not breaking the NDA.  Unless I am reading it incorrectly, even mentioning that you are in beta is against the Beta Tester Agreement.

 

 

How would they know who you are anyway ?

First of all, you would be surprised at how many people use the same screen names.  Second, that is not the point.  It is about following the rules when you are given the opportunity to participate in testing.  Of course I do realize that it is probably a difficult task for many to actually do what they are supposed to.

My point here is not that individuals are breaking the NDA, but that there are NDA breaking discussions going on in general.

 so what there only discussing client download speeds

Also, depending on the company and the contect of the NDA, you can mention that you are in a beta as well as things such as download speeds without it being considered a breach of NDA. Some companies only care if you mention the actual in game experience or beta forum material.

But, even if the company allows it, some sites may have a strict 'No ANYTHING beta' policy in place, where they don't even want people to make mention of being in beta or alluding to it. 

Make what you will of it, but what I see is don't discuss beta outside of beta.

http://support.na.square-enix.com/rule.php?id=902&la=1&tag=memtester

2.6 Beta Tester's Confidentiality Obligations
"Confidential Information" shall mean (a) any and all information relating to or contained in the Products, Software, Documentation, or other materials supplied to Beta Tester by Company in connection with the Beta Testing, including, without limitation, information relating to the performance, conditions, capabilities, and contents of the Products and Software, methods of reporting and conducting, modification schedule, modification process and its progress in the Beta Testing, AND RECIPIENT'S FEEDBACK, OPINIONS, SUGGESTIONS, AND COMMENTS (POSITIVE AND/OR NEGATIVE) REGARDING THE PRODUCT AND THE SOFTWARE, (b) the existence and the terms of this Agreement, (c) the Square Enix ID and password used by Beta Tester, or by any other Beta Tester, (d) THE IDENTITY OF BETA TESTER AND THE FACT THAT BETA TESTER IS PARTICIPATING IN THE BETA TEST, and (e) any and all information relating to the future or proposed products, services, or business operations of Company. Confidential Information includes, without limitation, all such information disclosed to Beta Tester prior to the execution of this Agreement. Beta Tester acknowledges and agrees that the Confidential Information constitutes valuable trade secrets of Company and (subject to the other terms of this Section 2.6) agrees to keep Confidential all Confidential Information, and only use Confidential Information in connection with Beta Tester's participation in the Beta Test.
Beta Tester shall not disclose, publish, distribute, transmit, post, or otherwise make available, directly or indirectly, any Confidential Information to Others. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU MAY NOT POST OR PUBLISH IN ANY WAY YOUR EXPERIENCE IN THE BETA TEST OR YOUR OPINION OF THE NON-RETAIL VERSION OF FINAL FANTASY XIV ONLINE.

And as for the comments about the fact that the discussions are just about the download- if you are in beta, why not discuss this in the beta forums?

Originally posted by teknician

Originally posted by fyerwall

Originally posted by Raxeon

Originally posted by teknician

Originally posted by Valdos

Originally posted by teknician

I am curious how a lot of this discussion is not breaking the NDA.  Unless I am reading it incorrectly, even mentioning that you are in beta is against the Beta Tester Agreement.

 

 

How would they know who you are anyway ?

First of all, you would be surprised at how many people use the same screen names.  Second, that is not the point.  It is about following the rules when you are given the opportunity to participate in testing.  Of course I do realize that it is probably a difficult task for many to actually do what they are supposed to.

My point here is not that individuals are breaking the NDA, but that there are NDA breaking discussions going on in general.

 so what there only discussing client download speeds

Also, depending on the company and the contect of the NDA, you can mention that you are in a beta as well as things such as download speeds without it being considered a breach of NDA. Some companies only care if you mention the actual in game experience or beta forum material.

But, even if the company allows it, some sites may have a strict 'No ANYTHING beta' policy in place, where they don't even want people to make mention of being in beta or alluding to it. 

Make what you will of it, but what I see is don't discuss beta outside of beta.

 

http://support.na.square-enix.com/rule.php?id=902&la=1&tag=memtester

2.6 Beta Tester's Confidentiality Obligations
"Confidential Information" shall mean (a) any and all information relating to or contained in the Products, Software, Documentation, or other materials supplied to Beta Tester by Company in connection with the Beta Testing, including, without limitation, information relating to the performance, conditions, capabilities, and contents of the Products and Software, methods of reporting and conducting, modification schedule, modification process and its progress in the Beta Testing, AND RECIPIENT'S FEEDBACK, OPINIONS, SUGGESTIONS, AND COMMENTS (POSITIVE AND/OR NEGATIVE) REGARDING THE PRODUCT AND THE SOFTWARE, (b) the existence and the terms of this Agreement, (c) the Square Enix ID and password used by Beta Tester, or by any other Beta Tester, (d) THE IDENTITY OF BETA TESTER AND THE FACT THAT BETA TESTER IS PARTICIPATING IN THE BETA TEST, and (e) any and all information relating to the future or proposed products, services, or business operations of Company. Confidential Information includes, without limitation, all such information disclosed to Beta Tester prior to the execution of this Agreement. Beta Tester acknowledges and agrees that the Confidential Information constitutes valuable trade secrets of Company and (subject to the other terms of this Section 2.6) agrees to keep Confidential all Confidential Information, and only use Confidential Information in connection with Beta Tester's participation in the Beta Test.
Beta Tester shall not disclose, publish, distribute, transmit, post, or otherwise make available, directly or indirectly, any Confidential Information to Others. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU MAY NOT POST OR PUBLISH IN ANY WAY YOUR EXPERIENCE IN THE BETA TEST OR YOUR OPINION OF THE NON-RETAIL VERSION OF FINAL FANTASY XIV ONLINE.

 

And as for the comments about the fact that the discussions are just about the download- if you are in beta, why not discuss this in the beta forums?

 i can downlaod the client with out being in the beta SO. meh it doesnt mean they are in the beta if there downloading it and saying it has crappy speeds. but who gives a F about if there in it or not

Originally posted by Raxeon

Originally posted by teknician

Originally posted by fyerwall

Originally posted by Raxeon

Originally posted by teknician

Originally posted by Valdos

Originally posted by teknician

I am curious how a lot of this discussion is not breaking the NDA.  Unless I am reading it incorrectly, even mentioning that you are in beta is against the Beta Tester Agreement.

 

 

How would they know who you are anyway ?

First of all, you would be surprised at how many people use the same screen names.  Second, that is not the point.  It is about following the rules when you are given the opportunity to participate in testing.  Of course I do realize that it is probably a difficult task for many to actually do what they are supposed to.

My point here is not that individuals are breaking the NDA, but that there are NDA breaking discussions going on in general.

 so what there only discussing client download speeds

Also, depending on the company and the contect of the NDA, you can mention that you are in a beta as well as things such as download speeds without it being considered a breach of NDA. Some companies only care if you mention the actual in game experience or beta forum material.

But, even if the company allows it, some sites may have a strict 'No ANYTHING beta' policy in place, where they don't even want people to make mention of being in beta or alluding to it. 

Make what you will of it, but what I see is don't discuss beta outside of beta.

 

http://support.na.square-enix.com/rule.php?id=902&la=1&tag=memtester

2.6 Beta Tester's Confidentiality Obligations
"Confidential Information" shall mean (a) any and all information relating to or contained in the Products, Software, Documentation, or other materials supplied to Beta Tester by Company in connection with the Beta Testing, including, without limitation, information relating to the performance, conditions, capabilities, and contents of the Products and Software, methods of reporting and conducting, modification schedule, modification process and its progress in the Beta Testing, AND RECIPIENT'S FEEDBACK, OPINIONS, SUGGESTIONS, AND COMMENTS (POSITIVE AND/OR NEGATIVE) REGARDING THE PRODUCT AND THE SOFTWARE, (b) the existence and the terms of this Agreement, (c) the Square Enix ID and password used by Beta Tester, or by any other Beta Tester, (d) THE IDENTITY OF BETA TESTER AND THE FACT THAT BETA TESTER IS PARTICIPATING IN THE BETA TEST, and (e) any and all information relating to the future or proposed products, services, or business operations of Company. Confidential Information includes, without limitation, all such information disclosed to Beta Tester prior to the execution of this Agreement. Beta Tester acknowledges and agrees that the Confidential Information constitutes valuable trade secrets of Company and (subject to the other terms of this Section 2.6) agrees to keep Confidential all Confidential Information, and only use Confidential Information in connection with Beta Tester's participation in the Beta Test.
Beta Tester shall not disclose, publish, distribute, transmit, post, or otherwise make available, directly or indirectly, any Confidential Information to Others. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU MAY NOT POST OR PUBLISH IN ANY WAY YOUR EXPERIENCE IN THE BETA TEST OR YOUR OPINION OF THE NON-RETAIL VERSION OF FINAL FANTASY XIV ONLINE.

 

And as for the comments about the fact that the discussions are just about the download- if you are in beta, why not discuss this in the beta forums?

 i can downlaod the client with out being in the beta SO. meh it doesnt mean they are in the beta if there downloading it and saying it has crappy speeds. but who gives a F about if there in it or not

Sorry, I could have sworn that this thread was about being in beta.  Why would you need to download the beta client unless you are in beta?

Originally posted by teknician

Originally posted by Raxeon

Originally posted by teknician

Originally posted by fyerwall

Originally posted by Raxeon

Originally posted by teknician

Originally posted by Valdos

Originally posted by teknician

I am curious how a lot of this discussion is not breaking the NDA.  Unless I am reading it incorrectly, even mentioning that you are in beta is against the Beta Tester Agreement.

 

 

How would they know who you are anyway ?

First of all, you would be surprised at how many people use the same screen names.  Second, that is not the point.  It is about following the rules when you are given the opportunity to participate in testing.  Of course I do realize that it is probably a difficult task for many to actually do what they are supposed to.

My point here is not that individuals are breaking the NDA, but that there are NDA breaking discussions going on in general.

 so what there only discussing client download speeds

Also, depending on the company and the contect of the NDA, you can mention that you are in a beta as well as things such as download speeds without it being considered a breach of NDA. Some companies only care if you mention the actual in game experience or beta forum material.

But, even if the company allows it, some sites may have a strict 'No ANYTHING beta' policy in place, where they don't even want people to make mention of being in beta or alluding to it. 

Make what you will of it, but what I see is don't discuss beta outside of beta.

 

http://support.na.square-enix.com/rule.php?id=902&la=1&tag=memtester

2.6 Beta Tester's Confidentiality Obligations
"Confidential Information" shall mean (a) any and all information relating to or contained in the Products, Software, Documentation, or other materials supplied to Beta Tester by Company in connection with the Beta Testing, including, without limitation, information relating to the performance, conditions, capabilities, and contents of the Products and Software, methods of reporting and conducting, modification schedule, modification process and its progress in the Beta Testing, AND RECIPIENT'S FEEDBACK, OPINIONS, SUGGESTIONS, AND COMMENTS (POSITIVE AND/OR NEGATIVE) REGARDING THE PRODUCT AND THE SOFTWARE, (b) the existence and the terms of this Agreement, (c) the Square Enix ID and password used by Beta Tester, or by any other Beta Tester, (d) THE IDENTITY OF BETA TESTER AND THE FACT THAT BETA TESTER IS PARTICIPATING IN THE BETA TEST, and (e) any and all information relating to the future or proposed products, services, or business operations of Company. Confidential Information includes, without limitation, all such information disclosed to Beta Tester prior to the execution of this Agreement. Beta Tester acknowledges and agrees that the Confidential Information constitutes valuable trade secrets of Company and (subject to the other terms of this Section 2.6) agrees to keep Confidential all Confidential Information, and only use Confidential Information in connection with Beta Tester's participation in the Beta Test.
Beta Tester shall not disclose, publish, distribute, transmit, post, or otherwise make available, directly or indirectly, any Confidential Information to Others. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU MAY NOT POST OR PUBLISH IN ANY WAY YOUR EXPERIENCE IN THE BETA TEST OR YOUR OPINION OF THE NON-RETAIL VERSION OF FINAL FANTASY XIV ONLINE.

 

And as for the comments about the fact that the discussions are just about the download- if you are in beta, why not discuss this in the beta forums?

 i can downlaod the client with out being in the beta SO. meh it doesnt mean they are in the beta if there downloading it and saying it has crappy speeds. but who gives a F about if there in it or not

Sorry, I could have sworn that this thread was about being in beta.  Why would you need to download the beta client unless you are in beta?

 if you do get an invite then you dont have to worry about downloading it

Any clues as to how many, or how often they're being sent out?  I keep checking my email and crying *sniffles*

Originally posted by Raxeon

Originally posted by teknician

Originally posted by Raxeon

Originally posted by teknician

Originally posted by fyerwall

Originally posted by Raxeon

Originally posted by teknician

Originally posted by Valdos

Originally posted by teknician

I am curious how a lot of this discussion is not breaking the NDA.  Unless I am reading it incorrectly, even mentioning that you are in beta is against the Beta Tester Agreement.

 

 

How would they know who you are anyway ?

First of all, you would be surprised at how many people use the same screen names.  Second, that is not the point.  It is about following the rules when you are given the opportunity to participate in testing.  Of course I do realize that it is probably a difficult task for many to actually do what they are supposed to.

My point here is not that individuals are breaking the NDA, but that there are NDA breaking discussions going on in general.

 so what there only discussing client download speeds

Also, depending on the company and the contect of the NDA, you can mention that you are in a beta as well as things such as download speeds without it being considered a breach of NDA. Some companies only care if you mention the actual in game experience or beta forum material.

But, even if the company allows it, some sites may have a strict 'No ANYTHING beta' policy in place, where they don't even want people to make mention of being in beta or alluding to it. 

Make what you will of it, but what I see is don't discuss beta outside of beta.

 

http://support.na.square-enix.com/rule.php?id=902&la=1&tag=memtester

2.6 Beta Tester's Confidentiality Obligations
"Confidential Information" shall mean (a) any and all information relating to or contained in the Products, Software, Documentation, or other materials supplied to Beta Tester by Company in connection with the Beta Testing, including, without limitation, information relating to the performance, conditions, capabilities, and contents of the Products and Software, methods of reporting and conducting, modification schedule, modification process and its progress in the Beta Testing, AND RECIPIENT'S FEEDBACK, OPINIONS, SUGGESTIONS, AND COMMENTS (POSITIVE AND/OR NEGATIVE) REGARDING THE PRODUCT AND THE SOFTWARE, (b) the existence and the terms of this Agreement, (c) the Square Enix ID and password used by Beta Tester, or by any other Beta Tester, (d) THE IDENTITY OF BETA TESTER AND THE FACT THAT BETA TESTER IS PARTICIPATING IN THE BETA TEST, and (e) any and all information relating to the future or proposed products, services, or business operations of Company. Confidential Information includes, without limitation, all such information disclosed to Beta Tester prior to the execution of this Agreement. Beta Tester acknowledges and agrees that the Confidential Information constitutes valuable trade secrets of Company and (subject to the other terms of this Section 2.6) agrees to keep Confidential all Confidential Information, and only use Confidential Information in connection with Beta Tester's participation in the Beta Test.
Beta Tester shall not disclose, publish, distribute, transmit, post, or otherwise make available, directly or indirectly, any Confidential Information to Others. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU MAY NOT POST OR PUBLISH IN ANY WAY YOUR EXPERIENCE IN THE BETA TEST OR YOUR OPINION OF THE NON-RETAIL VERSION OF FINAL FANTASY XIV ONLINE.

 

And as for the comments about the fact that the discussions are just about the download- if you are in beta, why not discuss this in the beta forums?

 i can downlaod the client with out being in the beta SO. meh it doesnt mean they are in the beta if there downloading it and saying it has crappy speeds. but who gives a F about if there in it or not

Sorry, I could have sworn that this thread was about being in beta.  Why would you need to download the beta client unless you are in beta?

 if you do get an invite then you dont have to worry about downloading it

I admit that I do see your point about the download.  But that still does not change the fact that the majority of this thread is people breaking the NDA by talking about being in beta.  I suppose it really does not matter much because people will do it regardless of the rules and most likely nothing will be done about it.  I just think it is interesting, that is all.

how is everyone downloading the client because everytime i logg in i get server maintnence

Originally posted by madeux

Any clues as to how many, or how often they're being sent out?  I keep checking my email and crying *sniffles*

Ugh.... I'm in the same boat.... I think I broke my beta application by adding the FFXIII key :(

Originally posted by Dameonk

Originally posted by madeux

Any clues as to how many, or how often they're being sent out?  I keep checking my email and crying *sniffles*

Ugh.... I'm in the same boat.... I think I broke my beta application by adding the FFXIII key :(

 duno

No Email for me either =(   I summited my beta application multiple times a while back accidently, will this make me not be able to join beta?

Originally posted by Corden

No Email for me either =(   I summited my beta application multiple times a while back accidently, will this make me not be able to join beta?

Nah almost everyone did that I guess, I did.

edit: btw the servers aren't up much, can't say more without breaking nda but just try to get in before the next beta;  for now it is purely testing the most basic stuff.