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Might be an expansion comming and a mentoring system ->

Remember, we have several more dragons and their cults to slay before Telara can breathe easy. And then, of course, there’s talk of what will come after, which we’re really looking forward to sharing later this year.

Trion deserves some congratulations.  But i feel 1.7 broke pvp, and especially for mages.  All of the strategies I had developed are now irrelevant.  So im supposed to adapt i guess, but who wants to continue adapting for each patch?  Just when i master a certain build everything changes and its out the window.  I apprecaite many elements of Rift.  I'm sure they are making a better business decision by catering to the ultra-casual, but it leaves casual to hardcore players like myself feeling let down after really getting into what little depth that previously existed.  Bad builds were important because they singled out the players who weren't getting into the details of the soul system.  Those players deserved to be steamrolled in warfronts.  They hadn't put any thought into the strategies of the mini-games, nor the strategies of their own decisions in how to spend points in their soul trees.  When i first began, I made some bad builds of my own but learned quickly through experimentation.  And it was fun.  But everything now is instant gratification and everyone is a winner.  And warfronts now are a total mess.  Quicker ques? yes.  Better gameplay? Absolutely not.  I think gamers are evolving faster than this genre and that imo is why there remains so much negativity at times on these forums.

And warfronts now are a total mess.  Quicker ques? yes.  Better gameplay? Absolutely not.

?. You are soo wrong no 1.7.1..  Warfronts use to be a 1shot your dead bull because R8 had too much of an advange over R7-R1's.  I am only R25 and can already tell warfronts have gotten better a HELLA alot.  You are saying cause you had to suffer through bullcrap pvp (Non skill related, gear related pvp) and now that odds are even you hate it....  That makes me laugh about the unskilled pvpers complaining that they had to grind gear (for skill) and they deserver to 1 shot lower ranks...  R8 geared players still have high midigation but now they are not KINGS that can 1 shot anyone, and pvp has become more skill orinated.

Makes me sad for this era. You make me sad :(

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Originally posted by Utopi

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Spelling errors might have something to do with your lacking the capability to spell properly, or just blame the website.

Originally posted by Zooce

Originally posted by Utopi

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Spelling errors might have something to do with your lacking the capability to spell properly, or just blame the website.

Agreed.  Sorry, I don't spend my whole life spell checking my forum post so e-flamers like yourself can be sooo elite.  You need to fell good somehow because your life is soo pathetic afterall.   Let's downvote you now, hmm k! 

Originally posted by Utopi

And warfronts now are a total mess.  Quicker ques? yes.  Better gameplay? Absolutely not.

?. You are soo wrong no 1.7.1..  Warfronts use to be a 1shot your dead bull because R8 had too much of an advange over R7-R1's.  I am only R25 and can already tell warfronts have gotten better a HELLA alot.  You are saying cause you had to suffer through bullcrap pvp (Non skill related, gear related pvp) and now that odds are even you hate it....  That makes me laugh about the unskilled pvpers complaining that they had to grind gear (for skill) and they deserver to 1 shot lower ranks...  R8 geared players still have high midigation but now they are not KINGS that can 1 shot anyone, and pvp has become more skill orinated.

Makes me sad for this era. You make me sad :(

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there is no skill in any tab target game..................................

Originally posted by Mad+Dog

Originally posted by Utopi

And warfronts now are a total mess.  Quicker ques? yes.  Better gameplay? Absolutely not.

?. You are soo wrong no 1.7.1..  Warfronts use to be a 1shot your dead bull because R8 had too much of an advange over R7-R1's.  I am only R25 and can already tell warfronts have gotten better a HELLA alot.  You are saying cause you had to suffer through bullcrap pvp (Non skill related, gear related pvp) and now that odds are even you hate it....  That makes me laugh about the unskilled pvpers complaining that they had to grind gear (for skill) and they deserver to 1 shot lower ranks...  R8 geared players still have high midigation but now they are not KINGS that can 1 shot anyone, and pvp has become more skill orinated.

Makes me sad for this era. You make me sad :(

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there is no skill in any tab target game..................................

keep believing the dream baby

"Hello, Ascended!

**snip** 

If you’re reading this, chances are you already know that we think about MMOs differently than everyone else. To us, everything is about the quality of the service, the speed of meaningful updates, and the relationship that combination creates with you. We never forget that you are the reason we do everything we do. 
 

**snip**

As always, we will continue to listen to you. You have given us some of our best ideas and we are looking forward to what lies ahead. 

On behalf of all of us here at Trion: Thank you very much for being a part of RIFT. Here’s to a great 2012 and beyond!

Scott Hartsman

Executive Producer, RIFT"

No wonder Rift is doing well when even the producer has a clue.

/bow.

They shurely did alot over the last year and deserve tons of credit.

But then, looking at the game...somehow to me Rift always remains with this taste of "it still wasn't enough" -and i often wonder: what is it that's missing in this game that has it all?

I wish that over this year they would have put way more emphasis on developing rifts further -WAY further. After one year, the once most bold feature of the game should be way more elaborated than it currently is. Like group-rifts you can walk through with your friends. Like a world parallel to Telara which you can visit, roam and hunt in at times (think of Eve wormholes). Like serious npc-raids on the capitols that make you WTF and tell your friends at work about the day after.

Also, they seriously need to think over their approach in general world design. With so many great features and a solid core, another mainpart of an mmorpg in Rift still is just so-so and rather a fly by. The game needs iconic, immersive and breathtaking locations, like there are so many in other games but little to none in Rift.Think of the Blackrock, JinthaAlor, early Tyrs Hand etc. Huge wasted battlefields where one can smell that lore took place, forsaken villages, haunted underworlds.

I think that the lore in the game is uninteresting to many because the locations reflecting the lore aren't taking you away like they should, but rather some spots on the map to pass through in a minute or two. Same goes for many of the instances in Rift.

I could ramble on forever here, bottom line is that iI had hoped for an announcement of an x-pack incl. brandnew mechanics at this point in time. But like some suspected earlier, Trion shoots out so much new stuff that there's nothing left to be put into an addon -that is both dev capacity and content.

Originally posted by Utopi

And warfronts now are a total mess.  Quicker ques? yes.  Better gameplay? Absolutely not.

?. You are soo wrong no 1.7.1..  Warfronts use to be a 1shot your dead bull because R8 had too much of an advange over R7-R1's.  I am only R25 and can already tell warfronts have gotten better a HELLA alot.  You are saying cause you had to suffer through bullcrap pvp (Non skill related, gear related pvp) and now that odds are even you hate it....  That makes me laugh about the unskilled pvpers complaining that they had to grind gear (for skill) and they deserver to 1 shot lower ranks...  R8 geared players still have high midigation but now they are not KINGS that can 1 shot anyone, and pvp has become more skill orinated.

Makes me sad for this era. You make me sad :(

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The R8s are not in the debate.  Everyone knew that was rough.  Im speaking about souls, synergy, the archmage,  and leveling up/competing  in PVP.  Judging by the Rift forums, I would bet the only mages not concerned right now are the ones who play in premades with solid team members who pick up the slack and take some of the heat.  

You believe I am wrong.  I can tell you im not without doubt because i experienced it first hand.  Also, the mercenary system is IMO a bad idea.  That's what i meant by faster ques, worse gameplay.  If it's not supposed to evoke an us against them feeling, then why create a two faction in war type of lore to begin with?  Now PUGS are even more random unless you are in a premade.  That could be good if it promotes teamwork.  But its doing the opposite. Already, players arent reaching out as much, and instead are playing a more casual, selfish type of game.  That we could argue, because it's my opinion.  (Again, the mage nerf is not opinion, its fact.)

To me it still seems Trion was caught off guard with such a huge response to the PVP aspect.  They are still fumbling a bit.  No one is sticking up for one shots or insulting Trion in this thread.  (But clearly you haven't pvpd much.  I had one 50 who NEVER was a victim of one-shots, nor do most players actually get one-shot anymore.)

You mentioned that I make you sad.  Well,  I'm sorry I make you sad.  Its a cruel world out there when someone voices an opinion contrary to your own.  I will pray for you to whatever God that YOU believe exists.

Originally posted by Ausare

Originally posted by Mad+Dog

Originally posted by Utopi

And warfronts now are a total mess.  Quicker ques? yes.  Better gameplay? Absolutely not.

?. You are soo wrong no 1.7.1..  Warfronts use to be a 1shot your dead bull because R8 had too much of an advange over R7-R1's.  I am only R25 and can already tell warfronts have gotten better a HELLA alot.  You are saying cause you had to suffer through bullcrap pvp (Non skill related, gear related pvp) and now that odds are even you hate it....  That makes me laugh about the unskilled pvpers complaining that they had to grind gear (for skill) and they deserver to 1 shot lower ranks...  R8 geared players still have high midigation but now they are not KINGS that can 1 shot anyone, and pvp has become more skill orinated.

Makes me sad for this era. You make me sad :(

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there is no skill in any tab target game..................................

keep believing the dream baby

You'd also have to add internet speed and computer speed to the skill aspect.  No dreaming involved.  Thats the major complain about 1.7  The deeper concepts in PVP like mobility and certain builds that make up for those who have less than stellar hardware have been neutered.  Are there other options?  Yes.  But many folks put alot of work into their builds.  I know I did.  Most people responding hatefully against someone like myself with a legitimate criticism need to step back, stop thinking their hobby is being scrutinized, and simply listen.  Or don't listen, which of course requires no reply.

Originally posted by Utopi

Originally posted by GrayGreene

Originally posted by Utopi

And warfronts now are a total mess.  Quicker ques? yes.  Better gameplay? Absolutely not.

?. You are soo wrong no 1.7.1..  Warfronts use to be a 1shot your dead bull because R8 had too much of an advange over R7-R1's.  I am only R25 and can already tell warfronts have gotten better a HELLA alot.  You are saying cause you had to suffer through bullcrap pvp (Non skill related, gear related pvp) and now that odds are even you hate it....  That makes me laugh about the unskilled pvpers complaining that they had to grind gear (for skill) and they deserver to 1 shot lower ranks...  R8 geared players still have high midigation but now they are not KINGS that can 1 shot anyone, and pvp has become more skill orinated.

Makes me sad for this era. You make me sad :(

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The R8s are not in the debate.  Everyone knew that was rough.  Im speaking about souls, synergy, the archmage,  and leveling up/competing  in PVP.  Judging by the Rift forums, I would bet the only mages not concerned right now are the ones who play in premades with solid team members who pick up the slack and take some of the heat.  

You believe I am wrong.  I can tell you im not without doubt because i experienced it first hand.  Also, the mercenary system is IMO a bad idea.  That's what i meant by faster ques, worse gameplay.  If it's not supposed to evoke an us against them feeling, then why create a two faction in war type of lore to begin with?  Now PUGS are even more random unless you are in a premade.  That could be good if it promotes teamwork.  But its doing the opposite. Already, players arent reaching out as much, and instead are playing a more casual, selfish type of game.  That we could argue, because it's my opinion.  (Again, the mage nerf is not opinion, its fact.)

To me it still seems Trion was caught off guard with such a huge

 response to the PVP aspect.  They are still fumbling a bit.  No one is sticking up for one shots or insulting Trion in this thread.  (But clearly you haven't pvpd much.  I had one 50 who NEVER was a victim of one-shots, nor do most players actually get one-shot anymore.

You mentioned that I make you sad.  Well,  I'm sorry I make you sad.  Its a cruel world out there when someone voices an opinion contrary to your own.  I will pray for you to whatever God that YOU believe exists.

 

 

All I do is PVP in Rift and the reason I responed with such a harsh tone is becasue your not realistic.  This is a EVER changing MMORPG and builds will be buffed/nerged and I've seen you QQ about this issue on a few threads already.  Your poor archmage build.  The merc system is bad because it takes the LORE out of pvp?  lolz.......................   It's instant PVP.

Players don't get 1shotted by R8 anymore because of the midigation/valor changes they added into 1.7.1.  It's actually a more balanaced game of PVP where every has a chance.   Also, if your in a premade and losing warfronts againts pugs then that is pethedic..........................

You should probably just stop now.  You make no sense and you're not being honest.  Your comprehension is poor.  Please start your own thread or find a new hobby.  Im more than positive you're not a pvper.  If you were, you wouldnt make such ridiculous remarks.

And to anyone else reading this thread, on Rift forums right now tons of mages are trying to figure out what's going on.  The nerf is not only real, but percentages for dps are not working correctly.  Some are saying Trion is already working to fix it.  Most are playing one of their other characters in the meantime, or going Dom.  So anyone harrassing me over this thread is not comprehending the problem.   And I stand by Trion.  I've been with them this long.  So people need to stop taking criticism so personally.  That is extremely immature, and doesnt help the issue.  Trion says they listen, and i believe them.  

. . . oh sweet, found the block button!  Now i never have to read another post by Utopi :)

@GrayGreene

Methinks we're having two different experiences. Prior to 1.7.1 Mages were WAY over the top, Wars were neutered (though not as bad as they think), rogues were a bit OP, and clerics were in an OK place. Now Mages have been brought down a notch, clerics (good ones) are OP, wars are in line, rogues the same.

We just switched flavors a bit is all. No more instagibs without focus fire adds a ton to the game for me, means I can use other specs than just my twitch pyro spec. CC becomes meaningful again, Dom steps into the spotlight as the preferred class. I always thought it was silly for mages to 1-2gcd anything they set thier sites on, so now, they are much like everyone else. Still able to pull top KB though competition is rough with Wars in thier ranged specs.

Note, the immediate changes in 1.7 with the monster high Valor I thought was a ton of fun as well, I just really like combat being more involved that mashing a button over and over. 1.7.1 toned that back some as well as kicking up wars burst again, but I still think its better than prior.

Originally posted by CericX

@GrayGreene

Methinks we're having two different experiences. Prior to 1.7.1 Mages were WAY over the top, Wars were neutered (though not as bad as they think), rogues were a bit OP, and clerics were in an OK place. Now Mages have been brought down a notch, clerics (good ones) are OP, wars are in line, rogues the same.

We just switched flavors a bit is all. No more instagibs without focus fire adds a ton to the game for me, means I can use other specs than just my twitch pyro spec. CC becomes meaningful again, Dom steps into the spotlight as the preferred class. I always thought it was silly for mages to 1-2gcd anything they set thier sites on, so now, they are much like everyone else. Still able to pull top KB though competition is rough with Wars in thier ranged specs.

 

Note, the immediate changes in 1.7 with the monster high Valor I thought was a ton of fun as well, I just really like combat being more involved that mashing a button over and over. 1.7.1 toned that back some as well as kicking up wars burst again, but I still think its better than prior.

I can understand that.  Still sucks.  :)  In any case, cc is good for sure, just no more dps mages for the present.  I stil don't like the mercenary as much because of the randomness and loss of comraderie.  But if the majority is happy, then I'm happy.

 I played a special kind of mage and it was a fun style that suited my lack of internet speed and computer hardware.  (as i said a lot)  It will be good to play some cc in warfronts once in a while so will not abandon my mage by any means.  But the dps is around 15 percent less now.  Even mages who at first didnt' complain are beginning to talk about it.  But will roll with the punches.  Thanks for the input, and take care.  

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Originally posted by Mad+Dog
there is no skill in any tab target game..................................

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How strange, running a slightly older 4 core system with a 460GT and 2 gigs of memory, connecting over a shared cable connection my latency never gets above 60 and FPS on medium settings is 30-60 depending on location. Only time FPS drops is during a ember event when it gets down to 20.

US Byriel

With my i7-2600k and HD6950 on Ultra I get constant 60 fps. Haven't done very heavy content, but the engine got lots of tweaks for sure from what I remember from beta.

I'm using SMAA btw, looks great on Rift and doesn't take a big toll on FPS.

Originally posted by srps

With my i7-2600k and HD6950 on Ultra I get constant 60 fps. Haven't done very heavy content, but the engine got lots of tweaks for sure from what I remember from beta.

 

I'm using SMAA btw, looks great on Rift and doesn't take a big toll on FPS.

I used to get 19 -21 FPS on Ultra and now I get 29-31 on ultra. They must have done something right.