What I know is that there are 3 types:

F2P (Free to Play)

B2P (Buy to Play)

P2P (Pay to Play)

Let me know if I'm wrong.

The case is that many people are always saying that GW2 is f2p, thing that isn't true and at the same time someone associate GW2 with low quality f2p games (I play some of them that aren't that bad but ussually they are)

So why people use the term f2p for gw2? that confuse others, right?

My guess is because you don't pay a sub.

B2P is not really common, the game is F2P, you just buy the software to run it.

Originally posted by Honner

So why people use the term f2p for gw2? that confuse others, right?

Because most MMO's are either f2p or p2p so people only think in terms of those two.

I also hear folks say that GW or GW2 are F2P.  This technically wrong since the box must be purchased to create an a account.  B2P would be correct.

It is b2p with an item mall that is supposidely not "pay 2 win". 

The concept of b2p is so uncommon among MMORPGs, that a few people call it f2p since there is no subscription fee. 

It's just like every other normal game out there.  You buy the box, you play.  There will be expansions.  There is no sub.

Originally posted by Joekra

B2P is not really common, the game is F2P, you just buy the software to run it.

so? how can be FREE to Play if you are BUYING it?

Originally posted by Honner

Originally posted by Joekra

B2P is not really common, the game is F2P, you just buy the software to run it.

so? how can be FREE to Play if you are BUYING it?

Again, B2P is not common, nobody says that. GW2 is not p2p as there is no sub, you do not pay for playing the game, you pay to get the software to be able to play it.

The game is B2P which means buy it and its yours..Forever! Woohooooo.

Also - It will have an item mall. But it won't have any items that would make you any stronger than those who choose to not use it at all, it's simply cosmetics and other stuff that's not really necessary. I hope this suffices!

Originally posted by Joekra

Originally posted by Honner

Originally posted by Joekra

B2P is not really common, the game is F2P, you just buy the software to run it.

so? how can be FREE to Play if you are BUYING it?

Again, B2P is not common, nobody says that. GW2 is not p2p as there is no sub, you do not pay for playing the game, you pay to get the software to be able to play it.

Yeah I know that buy the box and play forever. I'm just asking this stupid question because the term F2P doesn't make any sense for me here...

People are just not adjusted to calling an MMO B2P, yet. We never needed the term until now, even though we have been using the B2P system for decades though. The mmo genre is the only genre with different payment methods. At least for now.

Oh please.

If you are confused, go check here http://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/game-faq/

no need to make a thread.

Originally posted by Joekra

Originally posted by Honner

Originally posted by Joekra

B2P is not really common, the game is F2P, you just buy the software to run it.

so? how can be FREE to Play if you are BUYING it?

Again, B2P is not common, nobody says that. GW2 is not p2p as there is no sub, you do not pay for playing the game, you pay to get the software to be able to play it.

B2P is common in all the other genres, it's almost the only thing there is to the other genres. Besides, it's not FREE to play either and it doesn't follow the same rules of beeing F2P. Since it doesn't fit into any of the 2 mmorpgs usual payment model, we need to call it something else. And it fits perfectly since you obviously need to BUY the game in order TO PLAY it = B2P.

As everyone has said.. ftp has connotations that suggest there is no monthly fee to continue having access to an mmo, which is what GW2 is doing.

Buy to play and pay to play, dictionary wise, literally means the same thing. In terms of the meaning of the actual words. You see, when you are buying a game, you are paying for it. BTP is a rediculous acronym to have adopted because to someone who doesn't frequent forums like these it's just confusing. We understand what it means but there are plenty out there that don't.

A better expression to use instead of BTP would be something like OP or 1P.. for one payment (to play). Then there is a clear distiction between FTP, PTP and OP for those that arn't as geeky as all of us.

actually i would prefer

f2p

p2p with sub

p2p without sub

Originally posted by Butregenyo

actually i would prefer

f2p

p2p with sub

p2p without sub

Part of the problem with P2P without sub though is that many may think it means you have to keep paying to play but it isn't set up in a automatic subscription way.. such as buying gametime or using the ingame shop.

I do think people are wrong to use FTP to describe GW2 though.. very wrong. There's so much confusion with all the terms knocking about that they should have just ignored the popular jargon and explained it their own way.

I have a feeling many misinformed players will be dissapointed when they try to download the game on launch and aren't able to play.  Because they would think its F2P