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Lepidus  11/24/06 12:40:35 PM

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Staff Writer Garrett Fuller looks into the issue of recent bannings in World of Warcraft and offers his opinions on the situation in this new editorial.

More and more account issues continue to pop up in the MMORPG world this week. This time it's the monster company Blizzard who has come under fire for banning accounts that have been running third party software or operating in online trade or gold buying activities. These seem like valid reasons for a ban however players are being hit for running the game on Linux or logging in their character from another location. This is causing a stir among players because those who have done nothing wrong are logging in to find their accounts cancelled with little or no explanation from the company.

The full editorial is here.

 
paulscott  11/24/06 12:48:31 PM

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why do humans build, because it isn''t there

ouch.

too bad I don't have anything intelligent to add to this execpt for that I find it amusing/stupid that quite a few people here would find this as a good thing

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Pemdas  11/24/06 1:03:31 PM

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imo  the biggest problem is blizz not being able to tell apart farmers, ebayers, and gold mongers, that are hurting the game, from players that maybe only use bots to level a character of a class they were curious about playing but wouldnt otherwise have time in their busy raiding schedule.  it also looks like Blizz is using a bot to hunt bots. kinda explains why warden thinks linux users are bots and why bots think trees are mobs.  maybe blizz could look a time played at 60 to determine whether a warning or a ban is needed. a lot of people with 100+days played were banned, you can't bot raiding gear. that kind of play time shows loyalty to the game imo.
 
syllvenwood  11/24/06 1:14:58 PM

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WooT go Blizz, maybe, i doubt it, but maybe 1 company taking a hard line approach to these people destroying these enjoyable games will open other companies eyes and in a few years most of these games will be actually fun again.

/Cheer Blizzard
 
mindmeld  11/24/06 1:17:59 PM

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Die trying

cedega is working with blizzard on this so it seems a solution will come soon hopefully
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Paks  11/24/06 2:03:47 PM

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There's no reason to tell them apart because there is no difference according to the ToS.  A bot is a bot and using one for whatever reason is not acceptible according to their rules.

Also, how many of the players crying foul because they use Linux are legit?  Linux is a perfect bandwagon platform for people to climb on who got caught doing something they shouldn't have in an MMO and I'd guess few of them are actually legitimate wrongful bannings.

Lastly, banning boters hits gold selling sites in their wallet.  Less money for gold selling sites means less money for ads...




Originally posted by Pemdas
imo  the biggest problem is blizz not being able to tell apart farmers, ebayers, and gold mongers, that are hurting the game, from players that maybe only use bots to level a character of a class they were curious about playing but wouldnt otherwise have time in their busy raiding schedule.  it also looks like Blizz is using a bot to hunt bots. kinda explains why warden thinks linux users are bots and why bots think trees are mobs.  maybe blizz could look a time played at 60 to determine whether a warning or a ban is needed. a lot of people with 100+days played were banned, you can't bot raiding gear. that kind of play time shows loyalty to the game imo.

 
cdnironside  11/24/06 2:22:44 PM

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i cant believe theyd ban accounts simply for logging in on more then one machine...thats retarded...what if you upgrade your pc?? then its a different machine.  what if you want to play at an internet cafe while your travelling somewhere?  and no explanation either?  gimme a break.  way to micromanage the business and piss a lot of people off blizzard!
 
Rugster  11/24/06 2:27:44 PM

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Rules are simple enough. Break them and get banned. Resolving issues between detecting cheats and legit users regarding linux are difficult, therefore it's expected some will fall foul, but thats just hard luck.

I've actually stopped playing wow because thier accounts system used for extending subscription only uses microsoft explorer, since i use firefox, i cannot resub, not that it matters, plenty other games to play... bf2142 for example.

It is neccessary to create rules to fight against gold farmers and other exploiters, and if anyone legit falls foul they need to decide if they wish to use wholey legit softwares or not.

However one point remains undisputed. Blizzard allows modding of the game, then states that using "certain" mods will get you banned, with little guidance as to which ones.  imo, it is blizzards own fault that these bannings have become required to such an extent.

Noone can argue that botting is acceptable in a multiplayer game.  And there is little difference between a mod and a bot.

imo, using either is cheating, wether its acceptable or not.  Using anything not in the default package is an unfair advantage and that advantage defines cheats.

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Lateris  11/24/06 2:57:07 PM

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Banning farmers is one thing and should be supported but banning someone for logging into the game that has no safety measures built into the software from another location is pathetically ridiculous. There is no safety catches built into the software for that and Blizzard is responsible for this being possible. In fact they allowed “Stan’s” father from South Park to log into the game from another computer.

Banning customers for logging into the game from Linux is utterly ridiculous. They do not license Operating Systems. Linux is open source. The blame is upon a company that has grown too large for its britches and has now officially lost contact with its fan base and customers. This is plain ignorance and “sadly” a real shame. As fan I am really disappointed in some of their decisions.

 

Blizzard is now the Lars Ulrich vs. Napster.

 
PTED  11/24/06 2:57:23 PM