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CeLL1978  12/06/06 8:43:08 AM

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Heya,

Is there or will there be a MMO game in which roleplaying is above all, above leveling, above equipment, above grinding and solving quests. Where players dictate other player advancement. Where GMs rule and shape the advancement and give or take bonuses depending on other player roleplaying abilities. Everyone can get through grinding and quests to high levels in most of present MMOs, but is there a game where roleplaying is that rewarding aspect?

Most of the games Ive played: GW, DDO, WoW, EQ2  have very limited roleplaying , or roleplaying is not that important, and after seeing most players just ignore RP you just lose the will to RP yourself, and just go after who has the most powerful equip. Game with limited RP is not a roleplaying game for me. Most RP elements Ive only experienced in NWN. It seems to me that only games that are free (no monthly fee) are closer to RP than others, and I find that strange, also games with modding abilities.

I know there are roleplaying guilds in all avail MMOs, but roleplaying in non-RP world is pointless.

So, is there a game where most of the time you have to be IC and are penalized with some "roleplaying penalty", where GMs control the environment, where there is reputation based on roleplaying actions, where players shape the world... I know such a world would acquire huge number of GMs,nice interactive world editing system toolset, but hey anyone can dream, right?

Also I somehow think such a world would probably be rejected by majority...

Thanx.
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Zycie  12/06/06 6:35:27 PM

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It sounds like you're describing Underlight, but that's a very old game. You're right about free games being more roleplay-oriented than commercial releases. Planeshift is a free game, and it has the most dedicated roleplaying community I've seen. If you want to stick with more commercial games, though, I know that City of Heroes has a designated roleplaying sever that can be very rewarding to play on.
 
CeLL1978  12/07/06 2:47:10 AM

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Underlight description seems nice... but yea, its a bit old, although I played lots of good RP MUDS out there, so gfx is not the important factor. I heard something about CoH/CoV and nice roleplay but I dont know if will be able to get into the superhero rp environment, Im more.. a fantasy junkie. Im still hoping for a nice EQ2 gameplay style with hardcore roleplay (no names above ingame character faces unless you meet them, certain jobs and roles in the world chars can get into and role them (like a city guard), huge number of /e's, roleplay leveling achievements and rewards, etc.).
If everything else fails, Ill give CoH a shot
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brutotal  12/09/06 7:34:31 AM

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Eve is pretty much run by players, but it has its own set of problems. 
 
CeLL1978  12/09/06 9:24:26 AM

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Just trying EVE, looks nice, but Ive only tested it for few days. Anyways, look promising :)
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Token1337Guy  12/09/06 2:08:31 PM

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EVE, while a good game, isn't exactly a game designed around RPing.  I've been looking for a game like the one described in this thread for a long while.  Haven't found one.  The only one that came close, though the name slips my mind right now, was primarilly in German, thus preventing me from understanding much of what was being said.  Underlight's registration is apparently closed.

If anyone can find this game, I know I'll be greatful.
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Phinehas  12/09/06 5:45:33 PM

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Originally posted by Zycie
It sounds like you're describing Underlight, but that's a very old game. You're right about free games being more roleplay-oriented than commercial releases. Planeshift is a free game, and it has the most dedicated roleplaying community I've seen. If you want to stick with more commercial games, though, I know that City of Heroes has a designated roleplaying sever that can be very rewarding to play on.

I wouldn't put too much hope in Planeshift. While at the service it seems player-oriented and RP-focused, if you get down deeper you'll realize that it's just no that true. The quality of the roleplaying is extremely low, by my standards. The community used to be much better, but all the people who really knew what they were doing as far as quality roleplaying goes left, including me, since yesterday. I also find that the settings are rather "strange" and aren't really backed up by any logic, hence there's only a certain depth you can delve into the world before hitting the "that's just the way it is" barrier.

I'm actually thinking of starting a real RP-oriented game like mentioned in this thread, but you'll have to give me a couple of years. ;)

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CeLL1978  12/10/06 6:55:00 AM

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Haha, well, we can wait , 'cause there is nothing else we can do. Anyway, Im hoping hc rp game will hit the market soon. I think the only game that will be embraced with a lot of roleplayers (at least at the beggining of 3D game roleplaying, and not text based muds) is something that are all familliar with, like Forgotten Realms setting/D&D rules. That setting was used througout a lot of games so people would have no trouble getting into the roleplay itself. Also, something close to Final Fantasy. I had much hope in D&D Online, but that just isnt even close to something RP-wise. It just seems like all the other mmo-s (eq2, wow).
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KaptainZerg  12/10/06 7:14:11 AM

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Originally posted by Phinehas
I wouldn't put too much hope in Planeshift. While at the service it seems player-oriented and RP-focused, if you get down deeper you'll realize that it's just no that true. The quality of the roleplaying is extremely low, by my standards. The community used to be much better, but all the people who really knew what they were doing as far as quality roleplaying goes left, including me, since yesterday. I also find that the settings are rather "strange" and aren't really backed up by any logic, hence there's only a certain depth you can delve into the world before hitting the "that's just the way it is" barrier.

I don't want to sidetrack this discussion because what the OP is looking for is what I'm looking for, too, But, Phinehas, I think I remember you from Planshift from like two years ago---if you're the same Phinehas I am varguely remembering. It was from the time when we were picking up crystals and not much more, and the map was small, though a good map it was; and that guy who played a female who the devs named the tavern after was still playing. Rememebr? lol. Ok, well, after that short, little preamble I'd like to agree with you that the RP in Plainshift wasn't really that good, and nowadays it really crap. But, still, since we had nothing else to do in the game in its perpetual alpha state most people did turn to role-playing, and it was hopeful. Too bad the devs turned out to be nasty tyrants when players made critical remarks. I left after they banned a few players from the forums. The devs never really did much with the game after that except to screw up the controls and prevent us from jumping across rooftops. It began to feel like jail after a while so I left.

Yeah, anyway, Plainshift: the best mmorpg that almost is and never was. Or, something like that! ::::17::

 
Token1337Guy  12/10/06 5:47:09 PM