EVE Online

I think the biggest hurdle for Eve is the skill system being time based. It simply takes too long to get to the tech you actually want to use and the tech needed to compliment it correctly.

Personally I won't get back into the game but I think others who got into my position of being hooked at first but finding the lack of control from the time based system increasingly hurting their enjoyment would appreciate this payment option.

The suggestion is to give players 80% of the max skill points you could get for $15 of playing time and an amount of ISK to slightly compensate for the large leaps in tech learning that $15 just gave you.

This will create a tech race of sorts whenever new skills are introduced but I don't really see this as a bad thing since ISK is needed to get any equipment after you acquire the skills to use them.

You see it as problems I perceive it as a reasonable drawback.

Many people buying up skills would cause prices on certain tech to increase dramatically since it will skew the ratio of the growth rate of buyers over the production rate of sellers. Not a big deal since people would be more accepting of such an upswing in market prices because their buying of skills caused it in the first place. Buyers won't 100% like how hard it is to get their new toys at first but the prices will stabilize over time.
This will also cause a drop in price of certain items because people used to sell rare bpos because it was more profitable selling them away and more fun than waiting for the needed skills to make use of such blue prints.
Both points will hurt sellers overtime but in the end it just means they won't be able to profit as much from selling tech as they used to, most likely not a big deal.

CCP can still control the economy by adjusting the rate at which ISK is earned, the rate at which tech is available in the npc market and the random chance you'll get rare items.

Now there is also the real world concern that some people make more money than others so they can spend more. Skills are finite and everyone has an idea of what skills they want which doesn't even require getting most skills in the game. People who started during the first year and continued playing already have most of the skills they need and wouldn't need to spend much money to keep themselves near the top. Those who just start the game now don't have to wait 1-2 months (depending on how they managed their skills) to go from a frigate to a destroyer or cruiser so they'll have more fun by actually getting to the content that matters to them. This will create problems for people who are more in the middle than anything else and to predict what the majority of players would feel in this range is to difficult for you or I to ascertain.

I already considered many of the effects and I'm still leaving stuff out just for brevity.

If you think an idea is bad try actually presenting an arguement instead of something as incoherant as "Don't you know what this would mean? I know already but won't present any actual arguements to persuade you or to give you something that can be deconstructed and it is so obvious your idea fell on its face before you hit the make a new post button"

Highly disagree with this method, i am sorry just not a good idea, now don't get me wrong they need to change something, paying $15  a month and  the wait for skills, yes it is a good idea.. or concept but not very good for an mmorpg... this is due to the fact that people pay to play, not pay to wait.... you have to wait way too long, i am talking like 3 ish months, then ur efficient with a battleship, the one ship type most people want to fly,

Then u have people flying cov. ops and what not, that is 3 months to get and actually do stuff, no  one wants to pay and wait... even though it can be worth it after that long, but i don't want to pay 45 dollars before i can enjoy the game, anyone agree?

Originally posted by Fsuparker

Highly disagree with this method, i am sorry just not a good idea, now don't get me wrong they need to change something, paying $15  a month and  the wait for skills, yes it is a good idea.. or concept but not very good for an mmorpg... this is due to the fact that people pay to play, not pay to wait.... you have to wait way too long, i am talking like 3 ish months, then ur efficient with a battleship, the one ship type most people want to fly,

Then u have people flying cov. ops and what not, that is 3 months to get and actually do stuff, no  one wants to pay and wait... even though it can be worth it after that long, but i don't want to pay 45 dollars before i can enjoy the game, anyone agree?

but during those 3 months , you still need to get currency to buy your skills , ship etc ?

I havent really played EVE, (just the trial) but if it take 3 months of waiting to actually do stuff then thats good. and during those 3 months, you still can do stuff right ?

most mmo force you to do stuff that you dont want to do if you want to progress anyway

ISK is easy to get. For most skills it's no more than a million ISK and that's cheap. Buying skill points is a big no no. I've played the trial through many time on many account just to see how it is for new players and it's fine. What's the problem? The problem is everyone wants an instant return. How to get one is train skills like learning skills a 2 week investment in learning skills can save you a good few weeks of training later. If you want to do instant damage get into an assault frigate, this takes all of 3 weeks and during that time you can use your starting skills to start doing level 1 missions. If you pick a mining start you should mine not shoot stuff and the same for if you picked more combat, fight stuff. Making you're first million ISK is a good achievement.

Yes there ARE a lot of skills to choose and yes it can take 6 months to get a good character but skilling does no take very long. avoid level 5 skills until you WANT them. if you want then, you'll train them and you'll wait. If you don't want them you'll train something faster.

Over all this idea is bad.. No. No. and No.

sure its acceptable $1 for 1 sp