Age of Conan

i play AOC every day practically and Xfire doesnt track squat of my hours I play so i can imagine its the same for alot of people so frankly the statistics on AOC is possibly inaccurate. though the possibility of decreased numbers are there, but with my inactive xfire not tracking squat it goes the same for quite a few people so who really knows what the true numbers are.

Originally posted by nakuma

i play AOC every day practically and Xfire doesnt track squat of my hours I play so i can imagine its the same for alot of people so frankly the statistics on AOC is possibly inaccurate. though the possibility of decreased numbers are there, but with my inactive xfire not tracking squat it goes the same for quite a few people so who really knows what the true numbers are.

here we go again.

No one is saying that xfire is tracking all of  the people  playing AoC. What we are saying is that the game had 80k hours the first week or two after launch and even after the new and shiny wore off the numbers have been decreasing 10 - 20% on a week to week basis ever since. In other words this is just watching  trends.

Either no one has quit AoC and 80% of the people playing AoC at launch and using XFire quit using Xfire and are still playing AoC or 80% of the people playing AoC at launch and using Xfire are still using Xfire but quit playing AoC.

Even the kids riding the short bus in the window licking section should be able to figure this one out.

Now your next post will be how Xfire is not a represenative sample of people playing AoC and only quitters use Xfire, right. Try reading the entire thread dude.

Originally posted by Jackdog

Originally posted by nakuma

i play AOC every day practically and Xfire doesnt track squat of my hours I play so i can imagine its the same for alot of people so frankly the statistics on AOC is possibly inaccurate. though the possibility of decreased numbers are there, but with my inactive xfire not tracking squat it goes the same for quite a few people so who really knows what the true numbers are.

here we go again.

No one is saying that xfire is tracking all of  the people  playing AoC. What we are saying is that the game had 80k hours the first week or two after launch and even after the new and shiny wore off the numbers have been decreasing 10 - 20% on a week to week basis ever since. In other words this is just watching  trends.

Either no one has quit AoC and 80% of the people playing AoC at launch and using XFire quit using Xfire and are still playing AoC or 80% of the people playing AoC at launch and using Xfire are still using Xfire but quit playing AoC.

Even the kids riding the short bus in the window licking section should be able to figure this one out.

Now your next post will be how Xfire is not a represenative sample of people playing AoC and only quitters use Xfire, right. Try reading the entire thread dude.

Here we go again , people that don't understand statistics claiming that any old sample, now matter how biased & unrepresentative is still somehow predictive of the general population.

If he did read the entire thread he would see that half the posts are from people like myself who disagree with you & have even quoted links demonstrating exactly how unrepresentative Xfire is.

Neither of your 'Either X or Y' analogies are relevant & no-one is trying to claim that only the Xfire users have quit. What the person you replied to & others on this thread have repeatedly said including myself, is that the Xfire statistics are unrepresentative & no-one knows what the real ones are.

Is it really that hard to understand?

So where is your data to show that XfIre is not a good representation of the games population  other than the claim you don't use it and don't know anyone who does. Obviously a lot of people do and a lot more of the people that do played 3 to 4 times more AoC a month ago than do now.

Originally posted by LondonMagus

Originally posted by Jackdog

Originally posted by nakuma

i play AOC every day practically and Xfire doesnt track squat of my hours I play so i can imagine its the same for alot of people so frankly the statistics on AOC is possibly inaccurate. though the possibility of decreased numbers are there, but with my inactive xfire not tracking squat it goes the same for quite a few people so who really knows what the true numbers are.

here we go again.

No one is saying that xfire is tracking all of  the people  playing AoC. What we are saying is that the game had 80k hours the first week or two after launch and even after the new and shiny wore off the numbers have been decreasing 10 - 20% on a week to week basis ever since. In other words this is just watching  trends.

Either no one has quit AoC and 80% of the people playing AoC at launch and using XFire quit using Xfire and are still playing AoC or 80% of the people playing AoC at launch and using Xfire are still using Xfire but quit playing AoC.

Even the kids riding the short bus in the window licking section should be able to figure this one out.

Now your next post will be how Xfire is not a represenative sample of people playing AoC and only quitters use Xfire, right. Try reading the entire thread dude.

 

Here we go again , people that don't understand statistics claiming that any old sample, now matter how biased & unrepresentative is still somehow predictive of the general population.

If he did read the entire thread he would see that half the posts are from people like myself who disagree with you & have even quoted links demonstrating exactly how unrepresentative Xfire is.

Neither of your 'Either X or Y' analogies are relevant & no-one is trying to claim that only the Xfire users have quit. What the person you replied to & others on this thread have repeatedly said including myself, is that the Xfire statistics are unrepresentative & no-one knows what the real ones are.

Is it really that hard to understand?

This is the easy part to understand....

Over half of the Xfire players left the game.

The game had a start of 12K+ users

It now has around 6k.

I do not care who you are, that alone is telling no matter where it came from.

And it really is hard to avoid the many threads of players on the AoC forums screaming about empty servers..why would they believe that...because it is full?

Lets say Mcdonalds, Wendys and KFC were all on the same street. Over 12k people visited KFC when it opened. Business was always good for McD's and Wendys...

Then all of a sudden less than 6k people were visitng KFC on a regular basis. Nothing changed for Wendys or McD's.

6k People just got sick of the Bucket of AoC is all. And no telling how many in the actual game got sick of that same meal.

But, when people hear about the 6k people who stopped eating there, they sure are going to be leery of going to that same restaurant. Who knows how much food poisoning was going down.

I would not want to visit an empty restautrant. Scary.

......Xfire activity statistics (another topic that will get you banned on the Age of Conan forums) continue to reflect Age of Conan's decline in popularity. The Xfire population doesn't represent everyone, but it's a very reasonable sample if you're wondering about activity trends in the game. As the player activity level goes, so goes the Xfire activity level, and so goes the Funcom stock price.

Originally posted by Battlekruse

......Xfire activity statistics (another topic that will get you banned on the Age of Conan forums) continue to reflect Age of Conan's decline in popularity. The Xfire population doesn't represent everyone, but it's a very reasonable sample if you're wondering about activity trends in the game. As the player activity level goes, so goes the Xfire activity level, and so goes the Funcom stock price.

Yup...except for this one

AoC has 650k subscribers based on Xfire data

lol

I have seen so many Xfire threads deleted...yet this one stays. Something about a Hitler police state makes me leery of a game like that.

Shiver

Originally posted by Jackdog

So where is your data to show that XfIre is not a good representation of the games population  other than the claim you don't use it and don't know anyone who does. Obviously a lot of people do and a lot more of the people that do played 3 to 4 times more AoC a month ago than do now.

plenty of assumption on both sides:

650k current subcription? http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=138873 - while I dont think this is true its obviously there is more arguments against using X-fire as a yard stick and an interesting read.

X-fire is a resource hog and many gamers tried but dont like it.

Look at the end of the day Lotro and EVE are well behind AoC on Xfire, Cabal Online and Silkroad are in the top ten. Lets close all the games down from AoC onwards because they are fail?

Who's more likely to use a service like xfire? An average MMO player that spends 99.9% of their time playing the same game trying to advance their characters or a short attention span player that hops around from game to game to game all in the same day?

Large guilds use Vent not X-fire - see a problem here? especially in a GVG game. Vent is often outsourced and not for smaller guilds.

If Warhammer has many thousands of beta players how many you think use Xfire?  198 people thats all http://www.xfire.com/games/who/Warhammer_Online_Age_of_Reckoning/ - would that be an accurate representation of a beta testing public for the game?  Vanguard! only 180 people play per day that are X-fire users.&n