Age of Conan

Originally posted by orzo

Originally posted by Soupgoblin

 

I'm not leaving AoC to play another game...

I'm just leaving AoC.

I don't use Xfire, and have played AoC less and less for the past one and a half months. But I do believe that enough AoC players use Xfire to be able to get an idea of overall activity in the game.

AoC better do some amazing things with the patch (whenever that will be) or else a game with better stability and more content will nab even more of their current players.

You know Soupgob, Ive followed your posts here and on the AoC, let me know when you land in a new game, ill come hang out with ya man!
 

Right now I'm checking out some free trials to see what is out there, The only thing interesting to me right now is Stargate Worlds, If I don't make closed beta I will be a sad panda.

Originally posted by ethion

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by ethion

 

Well thats the beauty of it.  You don't need to use xfire for the numbers to be valid.  As long as something like 1 player in 100 use it and it is somewhat random then the numbers will accurately show game player trends. 

 

Epic fail of elementary statistics. Unless you can show xfire users are representative of all players of AOC the statistics can only represent xfire users. You can't.

 

And yet the numbers are right.... So I guess xfire users are in fact representative of all AoC users.

Xfire numbers don't show much at all. If you compare WAR and EQ2s number, and assumes that WARs numbers would be the same % users as EQ2, then EQ2 have 41K subs. It have about 3 times that numbers.

It might show a bit of how the game does from week to week but the fact is that PvP players use X-fire while PvE do it rarely.

AoC do have more PvE players at the time, screwing up the count. The numbers are just worthless, or at lease close to worthless.

Originally posted by Loke666

Originally posted by ethion

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by ethion

 

Well thats the beauty of it.  You don't need to use xfire for the numbers to be valid.  As long as something like 1 player in 100 use it and it is somewhat random then the numbers will accurately show game player trends. 

 

Epic fail of elementary statistics. Unless you can show xfire users are representative of all players of AOC the statistics can only represent xfire users. You can't.

 

And yet the numbers are right.... So I guess xfire users are in fact representative of all AoC users.

 

Xfire numbers don't show much at all. If you compare WAR and EQ2s number, and assumes that WARs numbers would be the same % users as EQ2, then EQ2 have 41K subs. It have about 3 times that numbers.

It might show a bit of how the game does from week to week but the fact is that PvP players use X-fire while PvE do it rarely.

AoC do have more PvE players at the time, screwing up the count. The numbers are just worthless, or at lease close to worthless.

xfire is best for comparing trends within a game not directly comparing different games.  Although comparing different games is going to introduce some error given a large enough sample it is likely still fairly accurate. 

When defining the number of subs in a game like EQ2 you have to have an accurate assessment of the number of subs in one game you are comparing.  That said war being a very new game the numbers are all over so using war as a baseline isn't gonna give you a good measure because frankly we got no idea how many subs there are to the game and they are changing.  If you want a baseline wow is very stable and probably a better game to create a baseline from.

I'd compare LoTR which supposedly has something like 150k to EQ2 and say that EQ2 probably has maybe less then 1/3 based one relative numbers of players.  So I'd put EQ2 probably around 30-60k subs and definitely 120k.  Keep in mind also that this is the number of subs today not some number tossed out by SoE months ago or right after an expansion.  These are the numbers NOW after being eroded by a number of new games like AoC and War which have both been released since EQ2 last reported numbers.

Using the same numbers this puts games like EQ, DaoC, Vanguard all around 10k subs.  I'd say SoE is probably not much above 100k for all their games together...

However as the numbers get lower so will the margin of error.  So games like EQ, DaoC, and vanguard could all vary somewhat since they have so few xfire users not being a very large sample for comparison to other games.

Another factor is that Xfire primarily shows hours played per day but it also shows unique players per day.  For comparisons using unique players is better since it looks like different games have different average play times.  For example lotr average is 3H 20M per play session.  While EQ2 is around 4H 10M. 

Was there a patch for AoC yesterday?  I'm seeing that AoC hit a new low of around 4100 hours and I see some mention in the forums about patch 3.0.  If this patch hasn't come out then it is looking like AoC might be dropping again...  I thought the last patch got it stable but it looks like it was temporary??

Originally posted by ethion

Was there a patch for AoC yesterday?  I'm seeing that AoC hit a new low of around 4100 hours and I see some mention in the forums about patch 3.0.  If this patch hasn't come out then it is looking like AoC might be dropping again...  I thought the last patch got it stable but it looks like it was temporary??

big drop, 10% lower than the worst day before, no patch, still waiting on 3.0, hasn't been a patch for over a month, we have just past a billing date though so that could be it, could be part of the drop for the WoW expansion as there is no billing date (from those that brought at launch) from now untill the expansion.

Originally posted by ethion

Kinda sad they might be topping the sales charts but it looks like they are sliding on keeping subs...  It will be interesting to see how th coming weeks shape up as accounts run out.

www.xfire.com/games/aoc/Age_of_Conan_Hyborian_Adventures/

Is this based on people who use xfire with AOC? If so then the info is flawed. I don't like and never use xfire. But I still may be subscribed to AOE.

Recent reports regarding a drop in AoC Xfire numbers is a LIE. They are lies, lied by the lying liers of the evil company Blizzard. They are just jealous because we have more subscriptions!

The truth is, AoC Xfire numbers are up 2000% since last week. You see, we have no problems? AoC is doing really well, servers are booming and thousands of people are subscribing every day.

Also new awesome content like drunken brawling is coming soon!

Originally posted by Ryti

Recent reports regarding a drop in AoC Xfire numbers is a LIE. They are lies, lied by the lying liers of the evil company Blizzard. They are just jealous because we have more subscriptions!

The truth is, AoC Xfire numbers are up 2000% since last week. You see, we have no problems? AoC is doing really well, servers are booming and thousands of people are subscribing every day.

Also new awesome content like drunken brawling is coming soon!

ha great post!! Thats two posts today that have had me ROFL.  Wow!!  Keep em coming.

 BTW, worst Xfire day in AoC's history.  200 hours less than the next worst day.