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Antikythera 7/19/08 2:11:18 PM
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Even if the game launches and it's half decent it will still fail because of it's design and lack of player base and i'am sure lack of content. For a game like Darkfall you need TONS of players online all the time otherwise you're just running around searching for people to kill and it becomes pretty pointless. If the game doesn't have a massive subscriber base there will be literally nothing to do other than basic PvE crap which can be found done 300% better in games like WoW. Hell WoW's PvP expansion coming out this year is probably 100 x better then the entire Darkfall game is which is another reason this game will fail. Of course the Fanbois will chime in now saying it doesn't have FULL LOOTING so it sucks. LOL Like that's supposed to actually be a selling point to get subscribers or something. I won't even bring up Warhammer which it would have to compete against among everythning else. (If) Darkfall launches and is even half playable I see it getting no more than around maybe 10-20k subscribers and holding them for a few months until Warhammer and Lich King are out and becoming a forgotten nich game where there's maybe a few hundred people online at any given time. My words are good. |
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Kyleran 7/19/08 2:15:32 PM
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Joined: 9/13/06
"In EVE, no one gives a damn about a fair fight." - chafin |
Originally posted by Antikythera
Then I guess you'll be enjoying yourself over in WOW while a few people will be playing the game they chose to enjoy. Seriously, what was point of your OP? Just to stir up trouble? Not like your comments/questions have never been addressed by other trolls in this forum. How about trying to come up with some new material?
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Antikythera 7/19/08 2:20:03 PM
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It's not my fault they chose to create a game that will inevitably fail. Failure to launch or failure after launch. Pick your choice. Hell I can go play Archlord right now for free and get a solid PvP game with up to date graphics. Think about that for a second. The game had to go FREE to play because no one wanted to play it. You really think people are going to come in droves to play some unheard of PvP game made by unknown devs simply because it's some kind of sandbox? What's my motivation to play Darkfall? FULL LOOTZ?? old graphics?? terrible animations?? What??? I'am a potential subscriber. Why should I play Darkfall? Multiply me by 1 million and you have everybody else asking the same question and Aventurine asking why nobody is playing their game. I'll tell ya why no one is going to play this Aventurine. It's because you developed for far too long. You have no existing subscriber base to sell to. The engine is terribly outdated. The content I'am sure is completely lacking in todays standards for a MMORPG. You have far too much competition with deep pockets and huge teams to keep things up to date who will steal away 90% of your players without even knowing they did it. Sure Darkfall might have some initial buzz going and some decent activity for awhile but at the end of the day when it's all died down , there will be nothing left but another empty game world and another failed attempt at greatness by an inexperienced team who's eyes are bigger than their skills and who got chewed up and spit out by the veteran companies in this industry. Darkfall is the last in the line of failed MMORPG's that started back around 2000. It simply hasn't come full circle yet and launch and fail like all the others. My words are good. Watch and see.
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ghoul31 7/19/08 2:43:39 PM
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Originally posted by Antikythera
Shadowbane had 100k subscribers at launch. And this game is supposed to be a better version of Shadowbane. So if it actually has most of the features they claim, it will have a lot more than 20k subscribers. People are desperate for a good sandbox game at this point, so this game could easily get 200k subscribers.
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Antikythera 7/19/08 2:47:38 PM
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Originally posted by ghoul31
Ahhh my naive optimistic little friend. First of all Aventurine is not UbiSoft. And never will have the marketing power of a company like that. Secondly , you ASSUME people are dying for a sandox game but if you look at the market it clearly shows that they are not. If that was the case than there would a plethora of Sanbox games being built and already out. |
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Lydon 7/19/08 2:48:24 PM
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Originally posted by Antikythera Oh go away. I honestly couldn't care if its released or not but you trolls are starting to make me sick.
If you don't care about the game, don't come here and speak about it! Get on with WoW or wtf you may be playing. |
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ghoul31 7/19/08 2:52:45 PM
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Joined: 4/21/04 |
Originally posted by Antikythera
Ever hear of EVE? Its a sandbox game and has over 200k subscribers. Ever hear of SWG? Its was very popular when its was a sandbox game. Then they changed it and people got very upset. I see posts in the general forum every day about the need for more sandbox games. So there is definately a market for sandbox games. How can you not see that?
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DoomsDay01 7/19/08 2:56:12 PM
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Originally posted by Antikythera
Ahhh my naive optimistic little friend. First of all Aventurine is not UbiSoft. And never will have the marketing power of a company like that. Secondly , you ASSUME people are dying for a sandox game but if you look at the market it clearly shows that they are not. If that was the case than there would a plethora of Sanbox games being built and already out.
Can you please provide these facts that people are not looking for a sandbox game? I mean such a bold statement like that has to have facts behind it. Just to go a little further, look at EVE. they have 20-40,000 people on at a time on a single cluster. Most of the other mmo's have a limit of about 5k of people on a single server. It doesn't take WoW numbers to equal a very successful game. Heck EQ1 still has like 100+k subscribers and its been going on for around 10 years+. So please, provide me with the statistics that a sandbox game is going to fail. |
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Theodgrim 7/19/08 3:30:19 PM
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Clearly the market for hardcore sandbox games is not that large. EvE is a good example of what might be expected YEARS after a very successful release. If Darkfall sells 20-40K boxes on release, and kept over half of those as subscribers after the free month, I would call that a big success. I feel confident Aventurine would feel the same. Afterall, they are launching with one server that is only expected to handle 10K simultaneous connections. If the game is really good and they continue to refine and enhance, it could see EvE numbers one day. But the top end potential is far more limited than a game like WoW. Most gamers just dont like serious consequences. But those that do are pretty passionate about it! |
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Burntvet 7/19/08 3:50:02 PM
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