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Jackdog  7/26/08 7:22:28 PM

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I wonder who told the game designers over at FC  that they were competant to design a PvP game. Whoever it was needs their butt kicked. I was over getting a few minutes entertainment value when I cam across this gem of a thread.

forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php

now don't ya think that maybe somewhere someone at FC might have thought this out a bit and made a player untargetable ( is that a word?) when in conversation with a NPC? So if I want to get some one banned all I have to do is stand near a NPC and if attacked report them and say I was in a quest conversation.

jezuz FC get your act together here. If you are going to have PvP servers take it upon your selves to make it non exploitable instead of breaking out the ban stick. Going back to Turbine for a example of coding done correctly. If I try and attack a mob from a perched situation, perched = I can attack mob using ranged but it cannot attack me back due to it being melee or whatever, the mob is unattackable and a icon appears over it's head to let me know that my attacks will always fail.

 

 

AmazingAvery  7/26/08 7:54:50 PM

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Originally posted by Jackdog

 Going back to Turbine for a example of coding done correctly. If I try and attack a mob from a perched situation, perched = I can attack mob using ranged but it cannot attack me back due to it being melee or whatever, the mob is unattackable and a icon appears over it's head to let me know that my attacks will always fail.

 

 


 

Turbine, lotro has been down for nearly 16 hrs of the last 48hrs - correct coding :) longest stretch ever..

If you had played AoC you would know that  attacking "mobs" from a perched position would result in the "Mob" evading and healing faster.

Because AoC offers PvP servers they have a rule that as Combat is disabled during a cutscene (tortage) a player attacking you during this cutscene puts you at an un fair dis-advantage and therefore is punishable.

What would be a better idea is to either put shield of the risen or the evading stance on you automatically when you enter a dialogue cutscene.

As its a stated punishable offence, the community is the reporter in this situation, and if you have been to Tortage lately you will have seen plenty of ARK's around. Also when a quest is taken in a populated area and one player attacks another an NPC will attack the attacking player.

But while you troll a games forum that you no longer play for  "entertainment value" becauase your game of choice is broken, those that play AoC are doing just that.

I would recommend clicking on Patiences sig to join her Facebook link as a friend if your that bored.

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courtsdad  7/26/08 8:00:49 PM

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Originally posted by AmazingAvery
Originally posted by Jackdog

 Going back to Turbine for a example of coding done correctly. If I try and attack a mob from a perched situation, perched = I can attack mob using ranged but it cannot attack me back due to it being melee or whatever, the mob is unattackable and a icon appears over it's head to let me know that my attacks will always fail.

 

 


 

Turbine, lotro has been down for nearly 16 hrs of the last 48hrs - correct coding :) longest stretch ever..

If you had played AoC you would know that  attacking "mobs" from a perched position would result in the "Mob" evading and healing faster.

Because AoC offers PvP servers they have a rule that as Combat is disabled during a cutscene (tortage) a player attacking you during this cutscene puts you at an un fair dis-advantage and therefore is punishable.

What would be a better idea is to either put shield of the risen or the evading stance on you automatically when you enter a dialogue cutscene.

As its a stated punishable offence, the community is the reporter in this situation, and if you have been to Tortage lately you will have seen plenty of ARK's around. Also when a quest is taken in a populated area and one player attacks another an NPC will attack the attacking player.

But while you troll a games forum that you no longer play for  "entertainment value" becauase your game of choice is broken, those that play AoC are doing just that.

I would recommend clicking on Patiences sig to join her Facebook link as a friend if your that bored.


 

Do your best to not compare Turbine and LOTRO and AOC. Its not even close in terms of stability and quality. Yes they are having trouble with book 14 but their problems are so small they barely register the majority of the time Their problems are the ones that the AOC fanboys refer to when they mention "all MMOS have bugs" AOC is not in that category

 
Enigma  7/26/08 8:04:54 PM

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never in my adult life have I ever seen such horrible behavior in a forum as I do in the official AOC forums. It is horrible over there.  The MODs locks threads that are critical of AoC but they dont touch people who so openly troll another player.

I just cannot get over that.

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AmazingAvery  7/26/08 8:11:49 PM

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Originally posted by courtsdad
Originally posted by AmazingAvery
Originally posted by Jackdog

 Going back to Turbine for a example of coding done correctly. If I try and attack a mob from a perched situation, perched = I can attack mob using ranged but it cannot attack me back due to it being melee or whatever, the mob is unattackable and a icon appears over it's head to let me know that my attacks will always fail.

 

 


 

Turbine, lotro has been down for nearly 16 hrs of the last 48hrs - correct coding :) longest stretch ever..

If you had played AoC you would know that  attacking "mobs" from a perched position would result in the "Mob" evading and healing faster.

Because AoC offers PvP servers they have a rule that as Combat is disabled during a cutscene (tortage) a player attacking you during this cutscene puts you at an un fair dis-advantage and therefore is punishable.

What would be a better idea is to either put shield of the risen or the evading stance on you automatically when you enter a dialogue cutscene.

As its a stated punishable offence, the community is the reporter in this situation, and if you have been to Tortage lately you will have seen plenty of ARK's around. Also when a quest is taken in a populated area and one player attacks another an NPC will attack the attacking player.

But while you troll a games forum that you no longer play for  "entertainment value" becauase your game of choice is broken, those that play AoC are doing just that.

I would recommend clicking on Patiences sig to join her Facebook link as a friend if your that bored.


 

Do your best to not compare Turbine and LOTRO and AOC. Its not even close in terms of stability and quality. Yes they are having trouble with book 14 but their problems are so small they barely register the majority of the time Their problems are the ones that the AOC fanboys refer to when they mention "all MMOS have bugs" AOC is not in that category


 

How about the massive two posts on the lotro forums about the massive issues they are having in every corner of the gameworld... hardly small if you read them.

lotro is in the category of an mmorpg being released over a year after AoC, has less site traffic, less subscribers, yet is more polished and stable over all, with less X-fire subscribers that AoC has and a lower ranking. Yet several Lotro fans like to point out that AoC is losing subs on a week in week out basis, point out the game is bad because it has a dodgy forum mod etc etc.

Good show.

As for the topic title as I pointed out in my 1st post, evading is in AoC, rules have been set, and even in its buggy state, AoC PvP servers are nothing like Lotro's. As for quality, when all things considered and tools at their disposal, why has lotro garnished a less amount of players with over a year headstart?

I still sub to lotro with my wife, have done since the start, we find many things better in lotro such as overall stability, but its clear we enjoy AoC more for the fun and direction it offers and takes bugs 'n' all.

Look lotro is a great game, I think AoC is too. Design flaw in which Jackdog talks about is something that I haven't come across yet, wouldn't do either as I read the rules and therefore know the consequences.

AO Arks were pretty good so I hear, quite a few are in AoC too.

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Jackdog  7/26/08 9:31:39 PM

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Originally posted by AmazingAvery
Originally posted by Jackdog

 Going back to Turbine for a example of coding done correctly. If I try and attack a mob from a perched situation, perched = I can attack mob using ranged but it cannot attack me back due to it being melee or whatever, the mob is unattackable and a icon appears over it's head to let me know that my attacks will always fail.

 

 


 

Turbine, lotro has been down for nearly 16 hrs of the last 48hrs - correct coding :) longest stretch ever..

If you had played AoC you would know that  attacking "mobs" from a perched position would result in the "Mob" evading and healing faster.

Because AoC offers PvP servers they have a rule that as Combat is disabled during a cutscene (tortage) a player attacking you during this cutscene puts you at an un fair dis-advantage and therefore is punishable.

What would be a better idea is to either put shield of the risen or the evading stance on you automatically when you enter a dialogue cutscene.

As its a stated punishable offence, the community is the reporter in this situation, and if you have been to Tortage lately you will have seen plenty of ARK's around. Also when a quest is taken in a populated area and one player attacks another an NPC will attack the attacking player.

But while you troll a games forum that you no longer play for  "entertainment value" becauase your game of choice is broken, those that play AoC are doing just that.

I would recommend clicking on Patiences sig to join her Facebook link as a friend if your that bored.

 One thing I agree on is FC should put a shield on players during the cut scene. that is what I said in my first post I think

and this is the first major problem involving any significant downtime Turbine has had since release. Is Funcom still doing 4 and 5 hour patches twice a week, and they had to shut the servers down for how many hours after the July 10th patch? Pot meet the kettle. People who live in glass houses should not throw rocks Avery.  Auction house and getting mail is laggy as heck right now, but wait! didn't AoC have tht problem also?

The issue all revolves around new code inserted in book 14 for live events. Look those up if you are not sure what they are. I don;t think AoC has them at all. Oh and book 14 was one of the 5 free content updates LoTRO has had since release. Might want to look that up also since FC is already talking about a paid expansion, they don't seem to be into much free stuff over there. Even their free trials and early releases they seem to need to get into your pocket for

There is another thread over there regarding  killing NPC's and perching in areas  away from NPC's  in order to gank and wondering if that was allowable.

Face it Avery you are tying to gild a turd here. Funcom could not pour urine from a boot if you told them the directions were on the heel and yet they think they can program a PvP oriented MMORPG.

So tell me what is to stop me from reporting someone just to grief em . All I have to do is swear I was talking to that NPC quest? They should have stuck with making a nice little PvE game, they might have been able to do that well, miracles do happen you know.

Also check my sig, I have played my my "game of choice" all week and most of today off and on when real life events did not take priority. matter of fact I am going to log back in right now, I can live w/o a auction house and mailed items tonight.

 

Jackdog  7/26/08 9:49:01 PM

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Originally posted by AmazingAvery

 

How about the massive two posts on the lotro forums about the massive issues they are having in every corner of the gameworld... hardly small if you read them.

 

ahh the thing I notice most in those 2 threads( one is just a continuation of the first and is stickied) though is active involvement and Turbine encouraging players to report issues. Turbine  reps have posted several time asking for more details and are trying to track down the issues. You see if this was FC  and the AoC forums the mods would be posting "problems , what problems?" and locking the thread and banning the OP

buckstar0814  7/26/08 10:08:18 PM