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ghettobooste  9/09/08 7:28:00 AM

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I played a Witch Elf, Witch Hunter and Iron Breaker up to 12.  There are some serious balance issues for the first 11 levels that I would like to point out.

The Iron Breaker class is wayyyy too over powered right now.  They are doing more damage than my other melee dps classes I tried.  They have insane survivability, crazy group buffs like hold the line, guard, and the one that gives 120 willpower buff.  These guys need some serious dps nerfing before launch.  At least for the first 11 levels.

The other seriously overpowered class at that level was the warrior priest.  Anyone who can top the damage and healing in a scenario 4 levels lower than the next highest in both needs some tweaking.

I think the tanks in general are a bit too strong.  The DPS of the tanks should not be equivalent to the actual DPS classes.  That with the lack of strong crowd control in the game it makes the tanks even more powerful, plus the collision detection...  Right now there is no point in playing any class other than a healer or a tank.

Things might even out at higher tiers, but from what I have seen so far Mythic needs to do some serious tweaking and balancing.  I hope they can do this before the launch or there is going to be ALOT of whining when they finally do the nerfing.

 
snowchrome2  9/09/08 7:33:14 AM

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 uh?

an ironbreaker relies on grudges to be effective and to get grudges they need to be attacked. stick some range classes on an iron breaker and see how fast they go down.

a warrior fast goes down pretty fast to tanks or range classes, but they can kill the melle dps classes just like the DoK on the destruction side.


you are new to the agme so you do not yet know how to deal with classes, they are no OP classes in WAR, you just have to know its counter.
 

 
Grunties  9/09/08 7:34:49 AM

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I've found the exact opposite to what the OP stated. Tanks seem like they do absolutely no dps especially compared to the melee dps classes in the latest patches. Ironbreaker and swordmaster definitely felt gimped. Witch Hunter feels right about where it should be on the dps side and ive had tons of fun playing it. Its actually my favorite class atm and I regularly am near the top ranked in RvR scenerios.

On the other hand Witch Elves seem OP and ive seen them take down people from full health to death in 5 seconds. Never was able to do that with any order melee dps classes.

So basically... i found your observations to not be anywhere close to mine.

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gan3f  9/09/08 7:36:26 AM

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Originally posted by snowchrome2

 uh?

an ironbreaker relies on grudges to be effective and to get grudges they need to be attacked. stick some range classes on an iron breaker and see how fast they go down.

a warrior fast goes down pretty fast to tanks or range classes, but they can kill the melle dps classes just like the DoK on the destruction side.


you are new to the agme so you do not yet know how to deal with classes, they are no OP classes in WAR, you just have to know its counter.
 

you sir are correct!

 
ghettobooste  9/09/08 7:36:41 AM

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Originally posted by snowchrome2

 uh?

an ironbreaker relies on grudges to be effective and to get grudges they need to be attacked. stick some range classes on an iron breaker and see how fast they go down.

a warrior fast goes down pretty fast to tanks or range classes, but they can kill the melle dps classes just like the DoK on the destruction side.


you are new to the agme so you do not yet know how to deal with classes, they are no OP classes in WAR, you just have to know its counter.
 

UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH?????? =/

 I said I was talking about the first 11 levels.  And the Ironbreaker does more damage than my DPS classes did. 

I deal with the classes fine as a Ironbreaker, hence why I think they are overpowered.  I am talking from the viewpoint of one who plays an Ironbreaker not one who got beatem up by one.

 
Sunder  9/09/08 7:37:20 AM

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Originally posted by snowchrome2

 uh?

an ironbreaker relies on grudges to be effective and to get grudges they need to be attacked. stick some range classes on an iron breaker and see how fast they go down.

a warrior fast goes down pretty fast to tanks or range classes, but they can kill the melle dps classes just like the DoK on the destruction side.


you are new to the agme so you do not yet know how to deal with classes, they are no OP classes in WAR, you just have to know its counter.
 


 

QFT!  Yet another of the same spam crap from kids who don't kno what they are talking about.  I love the "Newbie genius" we get flooded with on preview week/weekend of most games.  The classes are very balanced, and are not intended to be balanced for 1v1.  In groups they all have their role, as intended, and they all balanceout to their roles very effectively.

 

ghettobooste  9/09/08 7:38:56 AM

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These responses make me wonder if you guys know how to play the IB class correctly.  You know you have 2 dot attacks that you can spam that does massive amounts of damage when your grudge maxed out right?

 
Grunties  9/09/08 7:39:16 AM

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Originally posted by ghettobooste

UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH?????? =/

 I said I was talking about the first 11 levels.  And the Ironbreaker does more damage than my DPS classes did. 

I deal with the classes fine as a Ironbreaker, hence why I think they are overpowered.  I am talking from the viewpoint of one who plays an Ironbreaker not one who got beatem up by one.


 

Sounds like you gave your ironbreaker all the best equipment and you left your other dps classes with the starter equipment or just outright naked. That is the ONLY scenerio I can imagine that could cause it to play out like that. Either that or you are lying but I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.

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ghettobooste  9/09/08 7:41:59 AM

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Originally posted by Sunder
Originally posted by snowchrome2

 uh?

an ironbreaker relies on grudges to be effective and to get grudges they need to be attacked. stick some range classes on an iron breaker and see how fast they go down.

a warrior fast goes down pretty fast to tanks or range classes, but they can kill the melle dps classes just like the DoK on the destruction side.


you are new to the agme so you do not yet know how to deal with classes, they are no OP classes in WAR, you just have to know its counter.
 


 

QFT!  Yet another of the same spam crap from kids who don't kno what they are talking about.  I love the "Newbie genius" we get flooded with on preview week/weekend of most games.  The classes are very balanced, and are not intended to be balanced for 1v1.  In groups they all have their role, as intended, and they all balanceout to their roles very effectively.

 


 

Why are you so offensive?  I'm not a kid trying to spam, I'm trying to talk about class balance here from my own experiences.  JFC man. 

 
mrroboto40  9/09/08 7:42:24 AM

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