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Originally posted by Ozmodan

Originally posted by javac

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Introduction to hype 101, Adventurine is the king of such.  Just because some dev says something does not make it true.  Most of what Adventurine says we take with a grain of salt these days.  They have lied so many times that even the wolf is laughing his butt off.

We will have to wait and see when the game comes out what features are included and what are not.  Don't go holding your breath, Darkfall won't see the light of day in 2008, might be 2009 though.  If you want evidence of such, even the publisher was a no show at the recent Leipzig show.   If they had a game that was even close to playable it would have been shown there.

 

This is typical Darkfall trolling, no truth and no facts. Give us a list of some of these supposed 'lies', including direct developer quotes... if you can. 99% of claims of 'lies' are just idiots who mis-read or over-read what the developers say.

 

Sure they have talked about beta a few times in the past, but they have never set a release date for the game until now.

 

As for conferences I would rather have a MMO developer devote 100% of their resources into making a top quality game instead of blowing money going to conferences to hype their game then delivering crappy gameplay (*cough* AoC).

 

The MMO industry needs a wake-up call that it can't make shitty games and expect players to pay then while they add the gameplay and polish that should have been there in the first place.

I got a chuckle from this reply.  Proof you want, there is so much proof on the web it is overwhelming.  Just to start this is their 3rd beta announcement and we still have no beta yet.    Adventurine has produced so many "it is coming soon" announcements that media just ignores them now.
 

Sorry any publisher in the business is going to show a working game at the first show they can.  Hence it is clearly evident they don't have a playable game yet as Leipzig was just a few weeks ago.  How in the world are they going to get a beta out next month?

You people are clearly delusional over this title.   I can understand the want for something other than a another Wow clone, but Adventurine has been leading us on for years with nothing except a few screen shots.  Now they make one video and you want to annoint them?  Thanks, but I need something a bit more solid from them more than the host of missed promises they have given us so far.

In other words.... you can't provide any proof, like I said. You just repeat your Darkfall hate mantra without investigating it. Thanks for proving my point.

I agree with most of the OP's sentiments. However Darkfall is vaporware if I've ever seen it. Trust me, it is very easy to work up a list of features and screenshots like that.

we just have to see wont we XDDDD

Originally posted by Timberwolf0

I agree with most of the OP's sentiments. However Darkfall is vaporware if I've ever seen it. Trust me, it is very easy to work up a list of features and screenshots like that.

It's almost certainly not vaporware, yesterday they announced their US server host saying launch will be in 2008:

www.marketwatch.com/news/story/aventurine-launch-new-game-gnis/story.aspx

Originally posted by Timberwolf0

I agree with most of the OP's sentiments. However Darkfall is vaporware if I've ever seen it. Trust me, it is very easy to work up a list of features and screenshots like that.

so... you think it's easy to mock up over 600 screenshots, 7 videos representing about 30 minutes of game footage, and just under 250 single-spaced pages of developer interviews over 7 years, then sign contracts with a distributor and server provider and you think they would do all this just for a joke?

i have some beachfront property in Antarctica to sell you, PM me.

Originally posted by javac

Originally posted by paulscott

OMG I'm amazed the name javac hasn't been taken before

 

Evidently not many programmers here ;-)

Programmers are usually all for sandbox join the crowd

Originally posted by PatchDay

Originally posted by javac

Originally posted by paulscott

OMG I'm amazed the name javac hasn't been taken before

 

Evidently not many programmers here ;-)

 

Programmers are usually all for sandbox join the crowd

true... i think sandbox games generally attract an older/more mature audience anyway.

Originally posted by javac

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Originally posted by javac

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Introduction to hype 101, Adventurine is the king of such.  Just because some dev says something does not make it true.  Most of what Adventurine says we take with a grain of salt these days.  They have lied so many times that even the wolf is laughing his butt off.

We will have to wait and see when the game comes out what features are included and what are not.  Don't go holding your breath, Darkfall won't see the light of day in 2008, might be 2009 though.  If you want evidence of such, even the publisher was a no show at the recent Leipzig show.   If they had a game that was even close to playable it would have been shown there.

 

This is typical Darkfall trolling, no truth and no facts. Give us a list of some of these supposed 'lies', including direct developer quotes... if you can. 99% of claims of 'lies' are just idiots who mis-read or over-read what the developers say.

 

Sure they have talked about beta a few times in the past, but they have never set a release date for the game until now.

 

As for conferences I would rather have a MMO developer devote 100% of their resources into making a top quality game instead of blowing money going to conferences to hype their game then delivering crappy gameplay (*cough* AoC).

 

The MMO industry needs a wake-up call that it can't make shitty games and expect players to pay then while they add the gameplay and polish that should have been there in the first place.

I got a chuckle from this reply.  Proof you want, there is so much proof on the web it is overwhelming.  Just to start this is their 3rd beta announcement and we still have no beta yet.    Adventurine has produced so many "it is coming soon" announcements that media just ignores them now.
 

Sorry any publisher in the business is going to show a working game at the first show they can.  Hence it is clearly evident they don't have a playable game yet as Leipzig was just a few weeks ago.  How in the world are they going to get a beta out next month?

You people are clearly delusional over this title.   I can understand the want for something other than a another Wow clone, but Adventurine has been leading us on for years with nothing except a few screen shots.  Now they make one video and you want to annoint them?  Thanks, but I need something a bit more solid from them more than the host of missed promises they have given us so far.

In other words.... you can't provide any proof, like I said. You just repeat your Darkfall hate mantra without investigating it. Thanks for proving my point.

Proving what point?  That Adventurine speaks with forked tongue?  Hardly a hate mantra when I just point out the facts you so conveniently ignore.  Most of us here would love to see Adventurine produce something playable, close to what they describe on the website.   We just don't have much confidence in them anymore after all the charades they have put us through.  It is time for Adventurine to put up or shut up.

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Originally posted by javac

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Originally posted by javac

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Introduction to hype 101, Adventurine is the king of such.  Just because some dev says something does not make it true.  Most of what Adventurine says we take with a grain of salt these days.  They have lied so many times that even