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mscouts77  9/15/08 11:46:25 AM

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AoC announced they sold 800,000 retail copies and 400,000 digital downloads...  many measure this as to some amount of "success" that the game currently enojys.

so by using THEIR stadards.... what do you make of this?

 

Mythic Entertainment announces 1.5 MILLION units sold through retailers.

this of course doesnt include digital downloads....

(this is not a slam on AoC)... its simply an announcement for all those that think WarHammer is a fad.

Azrile  9/15/08 11:54:41 AM

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I think gaming companies are starting to get really dishonest about this stuff though.

Warhammer really REALLY 'encouraged' people to pre-order... and then they hype the preorder numbers.  Basically if you are going to buy the game, you are at a disadvantage if you didn't pre-order.

I expect Warhammer to have slightly more sales than AOC ( 1M vs 800K), but their slide down to subscribers will be much less steep.. probably 500k to 600k after a month or two, and then they will retain that 500k for awhile.

IMHO.. Warhammer is not as fun, fluid, polished or deep as wow, but there are enough people who hate wow to support a 500k sub game.

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Malickie  9/15/08 11:57:26 AM

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Who ever said warhammer was a fad? Some people just prefer a different game. I think it's great they sold that many, if they didn't it might mean bad things for the industry as a whole, as MJ said himself. To many colossal failures leads to a lack of investors, with that said I hope every game reaches that milestone from now on. Even the games I have no interest in or hate the design of.

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Litigator_AB  9/15/08 11:57:32 AM

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Time will tell how many box units War sells. 

The larger the number for War means less potential customers for AoC.  Let's see how this pans out in a few weeks.

 

 

 
lumache  9/15/08 12:19:31 PM

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I think its great for mythic, as I am not playing warhammer, nor do I have any plans to be playing it anytime soon.  They can however count me as someone that was burned so badly by AOC that I will never rush and buy another game before its been out a while, EVER AGAIN!

In the words of our president George W Bush, "There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."

Basically this is how I now feel about any mmo. I just love that comment by the way.... Even simple sayings elude this man!

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bluberryhaze  9/15/08 12:23:56 PM

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Originally posted by lumache

 

Basically this is how I now feel about any mmo. I just love that comment by the way.... Even simple sayings elude this man!

im sure your job is alot easier than his. 

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gamer2108  9/15/08 12:30:14 PM

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Aoc what a waste of $50 mil

Originally posted by mscouts77

AoC announced they sold 800,000 retail copies and 400,000 digital downloads...  many measure this as to some amount of "success" that the game currently enojys.

so by using THEIR stadards.... what do you make of this?

 

Mythic Entertainment announces 1.5 MILLION units sold through retailers.

this of course doesnt include digital downloads....

(this is not a slam on AoC)... its simply an announcement for all those that think WarHammer is a fad.

Correct me if i'm wrong but thats 1.2 million sales for AoC. 400k (the number everyone seems to stick with) subs from 1.2 million sales is a horrible retention percentage by any stretch of the imagination.

As for War I would rather see how many of the 1.5 milion shipped actually are sold.
 

 
Noggin  9/15/08 12:35:35 PM

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Originally posted by Azrile

Warhammer really REALLY 'encouraged' people to pre-order... and then they hype the preorder numbers.

 

Like, from a business point of view, why wouldn't the encourage people to buy the game... yeah very dishonest of them to try to profit from thier product.

 

There were plenty of free beta keys handed out around the internet if you had half a mind to go and look, the fact of the matter is that people are interested in this game. Otherwise they just wouldn't have bothered.

 

At leat you didn't have to pay Fileplanet on top of the game price to beta test like you did with Conan.

Malickie  9/15/08 12:35:43 PM

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Originally posted by gamer2108
Originally posted by mscouts77

AoC announced they sold 800,000 retail copies and 400,000 digital downloads...  many measure this as to some amount of "success" that the game currently enojys.

so by using THEIR stadards.... what do you make of this?

 

Mythic Entertainment announces 1.5 MILLION units sold through retailers.

this of course doesnt include digital downloads....

(this is not a slam on AoC)... its simply an announcement for all those that think WarHammer is a fad.

Correct me if i'm wrong but thats 1.2 million sales for AoC. 400k (the number everyone seems to stick with) subs from 1.2 million sales is a horrible retention percentage by any stretch of the imagination.

As for War I would rather see how many of the 1.5 milion shipped actually are sold.
 

Yep that part's indisputable, their retention has been horrible.

Very good point as well, pre-orders do not equal sales.

 

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Professor78  9/15/08 12:36:31 PM

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Originally posted by gamer2108
Originally posted by mscouts77

AoC announced they sold 800,000 retail copies and 400,000 digital downloads...  many measure this as to some amount of "success" that the game currently enojys.

so by using THEIR stadards.... what do you make of this?

 

Mythic Entertainment announces 1.5 MILLION units sold through retailers.

this of course doesnt include digital downloads....

(this is not a slam on AoC)... its simply an announcement for all those that think WarHammer is a fad.

Correct me if i'm