Darkfall

Originally posted by Aragon100

Originally posted by TenSpotting

Originally posted by Aragon100

Originally posted by TenSpotting

Originally posted by Aragon100

As feature rich as WoW?

Darkfall have alot more features then WoW.

Based on what? You're need for it to be that way?

And Darkfall features isn't the carebear one's.

Who cares? How does that equate to success?

Have a nice day

You too

 

 

Darkfall feature list, its a long one so i suggest you get some coffee -

www.forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=43318

Long enough for you?

+ all the features unknown by now.

Have a nice day

I see. So I am assuming you have actually seen all these features in the game? And actually working as intended?

 

 

I have seen enough to have faith in what the developers of Darkfall claims. Developers of Darkfall already stated out that the game is feature complete. Statements like that i have faith in.

Alot more faith then i get from anyone on this thread or on this site that's calling out for cautions concerning the feature list.

Cautions based on what?=)

Have a nice one

You have seen enough.  Good for you, you are sold.

Not me, I am not plunging into deep waters based on the words of a Mr I do not Know.  A beta or a good past record (like DAoC) will be a start, a poor track record (oh do I have to repeat the good history of aventurine?) is a bad start.

I cannot tell for sure if DF is coming.  God knows.  But I am not going to even worry about it till it comes, which may not happen in my lifetime.  I have betaed god and heroes, and it sunk after a full beta is almost over.  DF is still technically a pile of words, words about features, words about internal beta test, words about superior AI driven test.  Every it has is just words.  What else does it have besides words?  The videos, oh come on.  And that is a proof?  Haha.

If you enjoy reading words, fine.  I do when I pick up a novel during boring summer afternoons.  But not words about a game.  IF its a game, I want to play / test it, not reading about it for 7 years.  Actually I do not think i will enjoy reading a book for 7 years, and by all accounts the best novels are much richer than the crap list and incoherent words used to describe DF.

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by singsofdeath

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by singsofdeath

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by TenSpotting

Originally posted by Aragon100

Your assuming alot.

You're assumptions is worth nothing.

It's 100% feature complete, not 90%.

Based on what? A video showing a generic combat system?  Is that what Darkfall is?  Feature complete?  Than I suppose it's feature complete.

Have a nice day

 

 

Ok since you continualy argue that DarkFall is not feature complete you must have played it. I am of course assuming this since the basis for your arguement is that since he hasn't played it he can't know that it is feature complete I would assume that you would fall under the same requirements. If you havent played DarkFall then you can not say it isn't feature complete. We are of course going based on the word of those Developing the game itself and probably have a better view point than you do, meaning they actual know whats in and whats not unlike you.

Having said that the feature list of DarkFall far surpases WoW's. If they only manage to deliver on half of the list they still Surpase WoW's features. Considering the only thing we have to go by at the moment is the Devs saying DarkFall is feature complete we have to take it as it stands for now until someone has some proof to the contrary. I don't mean opinions from those they have not seen it but actual proof.

 

Yeah....and when people called others idiotic fanbois when saying that about AoC and FunCom, that was justified...because? Seriously. Most of the people hyping this game have bashed other games as trash more than once, even before release. And you are surprised DF gets the same treatment? Considering there is far LESS to show for DF than there was for AoC (and look how that turned out) or for WAR?

 

All we have is the word of the developers. some people choose to have faith in that, others do not. Both are valid points. To say it -WILL- fail or it -WILL- succeed on the other hand, are both not valid.

 

Well considering the past history of FC, you know with Anarchy online and them basicaly repeating what they said then and failing to deliver yet again.... . They ignored us........ The beta forums were wiped alongf with all the complaints and topics about the numerous exclusions . They released and lied lied lied there way to the bank.  This isn't a new tactic by FC.  DarkFall doesn't have this reputation. Nor have they had a multi-million dollar add campaing. There even putting there money where there mouth is. They want you to try it for FREE before buying it. Not a free trial a year or 2 down the road, a free trial before any of us spends one dime on it. No forced pre-orders to help generate false hype.

The actions FC and EA take while promoting a game always put me on the defensive because they have shady buissness tactics. Aventurine doesn't have that history with me. It's a new company that seems to be attempting to do right by it's players. EA nor FC can say they do right by there players. They do a money grab first then try and keep who they have left. 50-60$ x 800,000 box sales = nice sum to add to there bank accounts. Did all those players stay? no. DId atleast most stay? no. Why? because it was a money grab. Convience as many people to buy it before they try it so that even if they don't like it you get a box sale out of them.

 

That doesn't seem to me to be what Aventurine is about. So far they have been pretty straight up with the community. They don't communicate on a daily or even weekly basis, seems they try though. But they havent out right lied to us yet.

On a side not FC's Dx10 2 days before launch post was bull. Yes it was done in time to say they warned us. But it wasn't in time for most of us to even know about them saying it. So they wanted the DX10 hype without actually having DX10. More shadey chit.

 

...OK, maybe we have differing opinions on what qualifies as trust for a company. I'm sorry, I can't see good reason to trust Aventurine more than say Mythic. They haven't screwed up in the past you say...well, that's mainly because they haven't presented much yet, have they? A load of screenshots...and a few videos.

 

They had a Beta-Date they missed (yes yes, I'm not going to get into the discussion of how many there were, most people seem to agree however that there was -ONE- date they missed). They have promised a lot of things, but haven't shown any evidence for it. They have not let anyone touch their game, save for some obscure people who later wrote articles about it which are less than informative since basically, they only repeat the Dev-Blogs.

 

Yes, they don#t have a history of screwing up a launch, obviously. But does that suddenly give them some kind of bonus? Does that mean they are immune to the possibility of failure? No. It does not. But some people seem to think so.

 

It's really getting sort of frustrating to correspond with DF supporters (well, many of them anyway). Simply because they won#t hear -any- sort of criticism about their game, nor any legitimate worries. Yes, they are legitimate, because there have been other games that have promised a lot and have not delivered (and not just by "FailCom"). That, coupled with a above average Development cycle and very little media/evidence on the game makes people wonder. Is that -SO- hard to understand?

 

 

 

They haven't missed any official dates yet. This has been avoided by proper wording. But is a mute point.  I have no problem with Mythic but they are owned by EA and EA had plenty of bad history for me atleast and alot of other UO players. Point is I bashed your bash on someone else who was bashing a bash made by someone else lol. It's all rather pointless. I trust Aventurine to the extent im waiting for the release of DarkFall. I believe the features they have said will be in will in fact be in. I base this trust on the what seems to be there current buisness practice. They won't be charging me to try the game. If they did lie like the fore mentioned companies it won't cost me 50-60$ to find that out. So it really serves them less purpose in doing the same lying the other companies have.  I trust Aventurine because honestly they won't gain one thing by lying to me if they let me try the game for free before buying it.

 

FC did not do this. They lied and charged you for the knowledge they did.

Even EA didn't give beta Access to Warhammer without a pre-order.

So the other companies charge you to find out, while Aventurine is going to show us for free.

See why I trust Aventurine on this? Because I lose nothing by doing so. Neither do you or anyone else that wants to bash on fans or ect.

If they fail to deliver no one is out of pocket to find this out so it's no where near the same as the money grab companies. If I trusted FC which many did they were out 50-60$ to find out they were lied to.

Argue all you want about how DarkFall will suck or fail or be vaporware but the point is it isn't going to cost any of us a penny to find out. So chill , wait and see.

I do not speak for anyone, only myself.
 

I do not speak ill of DF, I just do not trust the game developers so far.  In as much as you have godly faith in them, I am skeptical.  Its a judgment.

I hardly care for DF as a game, as it stands to me its nothing but a pile of words.  I am not going to enjoy a game in the form of reading the descriptions.  So far I am here b/c some of the discussions here are pretty absurd.  Like comparing the wishlist of DF against actualy features of WoW or EQ or WAR and telling us how DF is supposed to be superior.  No you should compare DF to Bible and you will know that heaven is superior.

You trust adventurine b/c they promised you a free trial.  Sorry to put it this way, its cheap.  I am willing to put up $1 to preorder and try out WAR.  $1 is affordable.  If you like DF b/c they promised you free gaming later on, you should like the all the FTP games now available in the market.  You can start playing them instead of waiting for DF.

If you like DF for the features they listed, good.  You have faith, and faith is not subjected to arguments.  I do not and that also is closed subject, no discussions.  We understand each other and we stop here.  Right now DF is NOT a game in my understanding, so we both are talking off our head about something that to me does not yet exist.  Why don't we start discussing the merits of building a colony on the sun.  I can list a long pile of crap about how good the sun will be when we have the technology to convert it to a gaia.  And in the same spirit of adventurine, I tell you now I already have the superior technology to convert the sun to an air-conditioned fertile land.

What are the long list of good things about living in my upcoming colony on the sun?  For one, we have all the stupid people on earth rotating around us.  For another, if you want to feel big, the sun is bigger than the earth.  Oh big features .. it must be the best place to live,  Starting packing up and wait for the shuttle to the sun.

After reading all these, you should have faith in me.  You must have.

Originally posted by Isane

Originally posted by TenSpotting

Originally posted by Mazer14

But the sole fact that this game will be refreshingly different from 90% of the games out there will give it the boost it needs.

That's common sense.

 

How is a Sandbox PvP game based on ideas from 1999 "refreshingly different" ?

Darkfall is nothing more than a Shadowbane clone with Horses and boats floating around.

 

You are showing your ignorance here, and of top of thinking WoW is feature rich you have zero credibility Zero credibility to you and do you think we should listen to your view or to the millions who are too busy playing to crap talk here?. , and seem to fail to even be able to grasp the concepts involved here. Darkfall has been sepcifically developed to vater for all player types.  Oh you know how DF is designed? just by reading the pile of text a salesman puts up on the web?  Do you know how Bush plot his Iraq campaign as well?

Yes that is all player types. Not just PvP , too difficult a concept to understand I guess. But is you apply some logic and common sense you profess to have you may get it if you think about it.  how do you know?  or just claims, empty claims, unsubstantiated claims, just like all the big talks about DF.  Words, words and more words.  That is your game?

In absence of any solid evidence from the developer, exercising common sense is a good option.  You can place your faith in DF, no one can dissuade you from that.  Faith belongs to the church and is not a good basis for discussion.

So, from your point of view, its impossible to discuss any game during its development? gg

True, all Darkfall got atm is Screenshots, Videos and developer talk. But you won't get more from any game out there before the beta starts.

Originally posted by StopidFanboi

It's sad that all the "100% sure it will fail" people will play the game if it comes out and have already signed for the beta. They're just fanbois afraid to get their e-peen hurt again like after DnL, Age of Mourning, Vanguard, Age of Conan...

When will it come out, and in what form?

Originally posted by Orthedos

Originally posted by StopidFanboi

It's sad that all the "100% sure it will fail" people will play the game if it comes out and have already signed for the beta. They're just fanbois afraid to get their e-peen hurt again like after DnL, Age of Mourning, Vanguard, Age of Conan...

When will it come out, and in what form?

public beta this year garrenteed

Great to see that Darkfall having such an inpact on people I cant wait for it to come out.