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ok, time to dispel a common myth on this site -- opinions CAN be wrong.   everyone will have an opinion and that does not mean that because it's "their experience" that the opinion is, by definition, correct.

a man has never eaten steak before.  he goes to a restaurant and orders steak.  for whatever reason, the raw steak is spoiled and rancid.  the chef cooks it and the man eats it.  he thinks it is horrid and gets sick.  from his experience/in his opinion -- steak is horrible.

a LOT of the "opinions" that get defended as "oh it's my opinion, how can you tell me what i think?  how can you tell me i'm wrong." are exactly like the above example -- completely subjective based upon a very tiny sampling.

so, i'm sorry, but YES, your opinion can be completely offbase and incorrect, and if someone presents factual information to disprove your "opinion"; then, welcome to the world where incorrect opinions DO get corrected... this ain't yo mama's basement no mo.

Originally posted by damian7

ok, time to dispel a common myth on this site -- opinions CAN be wrong.   everyone will have an opinion and that does not mean that because it's "their experience" that the opinion is, by definition, correct.

 

a man has never eaten steak before.  he goes to a restaurant and orders steak.  for whatever reason, the raw steak is spoiled and rancid.  the chef cooks it and the man eats it.  he thinks it is horrid and gets sick.  from his experience/in his opinion -- steak is horrible.

a LOT of the "opinions" that get defended as "oh it's my opinion, how can you tell me what i think?  how can you tell me i'm wrong." are exactly like the above example -- completely subjective based upon a very tiny sampling.

 

so, i'm sorry, but YES, your opinion can be completely offbase and incorrect, and if someone presents factual information to disprove your "opinion"; then, welcome to the world where incorrect opinions DO get corrected... this ain't yo mama's basement no mo.

This kind of reasoning is not allowed here. . .you should be ashamed of yourself.

Sweeping generalizations can be wrong.

Opinions supported by fact/experience are never wrong.

Originally posted by chrisleko

Sweeping generalizations can be wrong.

Opinions supported by fact/experience are never wrong.

thanks for proving my point.   an opinion supported by FACT, would be likely correct.  an opinion supported by EXPERIENCE is exactly my given example of the man eating the bad steak.

sorta like, "oh i keep dying on my toon, XYZ classes are overpowered.  when the truth of the matter is that the person whining is just horrible at pvp."  his experience is that everyone kicks his ass, so those classes must be overpowered, when in fact, he may be playing the overpowered class and he just sucks.

opinion – noun
 

- a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.

Heh, I love you people... opinions are never wrong. Opinions are based on personal feelings about something, not necessarily facts. So in essence, everyones opinion is correct, for themselves, and really that is all that matters...

If even one person in the entire world likes it...it's an opinion.

this thread is made of fail and that's my GOD DAMN OPINION!

Originally posted by damian7

Originally posted by chrisleko

Sweeping generalizations can be wrong.

Opinions supported by fact/experience are never wrong.

 

thanks for proving my point.   an opinion supported by FACT, would be likely correct.  an opinion supported by EXPERIENCE is exactly my given example of the man eating the bad steak.

sorta like, "oh i keep dying on my toon, XYZ classes are overpowered.  when the truth of the matter is that the person whining is just horrible at pvp."  his experience is that everyone kicks his ass, so those classes must be overpowered, when in fact, he may be playing the overpowered class and he just sucks.

LOL.

So now opinions are only valid if they have facts to support them? HAHA you gotta be kidding me, that is the exact opposite of what an opinion is.

An opinion is an opinion because it is what the person thinks, not what is proven or not proven. For your example above, it might just be your opinion that he is horrible at PvP because you play one of the overpowered classes and your domination makes you believe you are awesome at PvP.

See how that works?

The man thinks steak is horrible because the one he ate is horrible. It doesn't matter what you think about steaks, he thinks what he knows. His opinion can CHANGE if he has a good steak, but until then he will still think steak is bad, which is his opinion.

My opinion is that this thread is stupid and based on your own opinion.

Originally posted by chrisleko

Sweeping generalizations can be wrong.

Opinions supported by fact/experience are never wrong.

opinions supported by fact/experience may be wrong. Theories in science are based on MANY tests and facts/experience, but apparently, they dont always hold true.