WAR (Warhammer Online)

Almost every Elf T2 scenario I play its the same story. No comunication, no-one guards the flag exept for one or 2, we go straight down the middle everytime, no-one attacks the casters just go for the tanks and worst of all people keep hold of the enemy flag longer than they need to and then get killed before they can plant it. When you try to organise things a bit most of the time people just ignore whats said and do their own thing.

I love this game I really do and the guys on Order are nice guys but there is no orginisation or sense of purpose at all. I know we all play the game to enjoy it but whats the point if no one cares about winning? I mean winning is the point isnt it? On my shard you cannot get renown gear because all the keeps are occupied. I gave order a chance and wanted to help out but you cant help people who dont want to help themselves. I like my Swordmaster but I'm going back to my Black Orc, even tho he isnt my favorite char anymore because I have forgotten what its like to win. You want to know why people roll destruction? Because they win. I'm not saying its the same on all shards but it is on the one I'm playing on. Its not even though there arnt enough people on Order, my shard is full/full most of the time. *shakes head*

This is not a flame just an observation of one shard, as I said it is prob the different on other servers, its just a shame thats all, order could be really great.

Originally posted by Janus35

Almost every Elf T2 scenario I play its the same story. No comunication, no-one guards the flag exept for one or 2, we go straight down the middle everytime, no-one attacks the casters just go for the tanks and worst of all people keep hold of the enemy flag longer than they need to and then get killed before they can plant it. When you try to organise things a bit most of the time people just ignore whats said and do their own thing.

I love this game I really do and the guys on Order are nice guys but there is no orginisation or sense of purpose at all. I know we all play the game to enjoy it but whats the point if no one cares about winning? I mean winning is the point isnt it? On my shard you cannot get renown gear because all the keeps are occupied. I gave order a chance and wanted to help out but you cant help people who dont want to help themselves. I like my Swordmaster but I'm going back to my Black Orc, even tho he isnt my favorite char anymore because I have forgotten what its like to win. You want to know why people roll destruction? Because they win. I'm not saying its the same on all shards but it is on the one I'm playing on. Its not even though there arnt enough people on Order, my shard is full/full most of the time. *shakes head*

This is not a flame just an observation of one shard, as I said it is prob the different on other servers, its just a shame thats all, order could be really great.

actually... the point of order playing scenarios is to give dessie more realm points.

if you try to organize or anything, you WILL get at least one or two order guys whining along the lines of, "when will order just learn to have fun".   to which if you reply with something like, "wouldn't winning the scenario be fun?", you will then get a reply like, "order just needs to learn to have fun and stop complaining so much".

it's NOT a lack of tanks for order.  it really isn't because it's the same mess in the dwarf area in t1/t2.  you just sit there wondering what in the world.

honestly, in dessie pugs, it's like a hive mind.  i swear most of these pugs are a lot of people that must've been playing these games for years.   you get the occasional message of "inc to X spot" or "carrier heading to Y"; but for a lot of the time, it's just like people know their role and teams form up to accomplish the objectives.

i hope i didn't just jinx myself; but it's incredible the difference on both pve and pvp between order and dessie, even this early in the game.

If you want to RvR play destruction.  Order is too undependable.  Sometimes they do good but most the time they are just flakes.  I don't know why it is the way that it is but I know that destruction seems to attract a more RvR-oriented crowd.  Those people tend to take scenarios seriously while your average casual/PvE player doesn't.  And for some reason order attracts the second sort.  That said, I haven't seen any end-game content yet but it seems to become more balanced as you gain levels.

I fell you OP, im playing a white lion at the moment and seldom won in rvr. That said, i just go with defeat in mind,  and earn as much rvr points as possible for my reown gear...

Typical PUG bullshit, it's the same in every game.

I have noticed this as well , one thing i found out yesterday is alot of folks who started on order dont even know what class destructo healers are  or look like , once we explained the rvr rocked but again not everyone has read up on everything so a wee bit of explaining goes along way , healers first !!! goes really easy after that.

also not many healers from what i have seen on order side, most are runepriests and warrior priest(paladin).

that said i was involved with winning at least ten out of 15 yesterday on order side.

Destruction will be toned down in future patches and order will receive some love to help level the playing field. Mythic is known for nerfing, As far as playing together you need a guild on TS or Vent listening.

Originally posted by Elsabolts

Destruction will be toned down in future patches and order will receive some love to help level the playing field. Mythic is known for nerfing, As far as playing together you need a guild on TS or Vent listening.

order thinks destruction are overpowered, destruction think order are overpowered. probably balanced.

incidently, get a destruction character and go play nordenwatch... your entire team just zerged straight to the lighthouse and camped there giving the win to order right? its not just order who suffers from retards.

Originally posted by damian7

Originally posted by Janus35

Almost every Elf T2 scenario I play its the same story. No comunication, no-one guards the flag exept for one or 2, we go straight down the middle everytime, no-one attacks the casters just go for the tanks and worst of all people keep hold of the enemy flag longer than they need to and then get killed before they can plant it. When you try to organise things a bit most of the time people just ignore whats said and do their own thing.

I love this game I really do and the guys on Order are nice guys but there is no orginisation or sense of purpose at all. I know we all play the game to enjoy it but whats the point if no one cares about winning? I mean winning is the point isnt it? On my shard you cannot get renown gear because all the keeps are occupied. I gave order a chance and wanted to help out but you cant help people who dont want to help themselves. I like my Swordmaster but I'm going back to my Black Orc, even tho he isnt my favorite char anymore because I have forgotten what its like to win. You want to know why people roll destruction? Because they win. I'm not saying its the same on all shards but it is on the one I'm playing on. Its not even though there arnt enough people on Order, my shard is full/full most of the time. *shakes head*

This is not a flame just an observation of one shard, as I said it is prob the different on other servers, its just a shame thats all, order could be really great.

 

actually... the point of order playing scenarios is to give dessie more realm points.

if you try to organize or anything, you WILL get at least one or two order guys whining along the lines of, "when will order just learn to have fun".   to which if you reply with something like, "wouldn't winning the scenario be fun?", you will then get a reply like, "order just needs to learn to have fun and stop complaining so much".

 

it's NOT a lack of tanks for order.  it really isn't because it's the same mess in the dwarf area in t1/t2.  you just sit there wondering what in the world.

 

honestly, in dessie pugs, it's like a hive mind.  i swear most of these pugs are a lot of people that must've been playing these games for years.   you get the occasional message of "inc to X spot" or "carrier heading to Y"; but for a lot of the time, it's just like people know their role and teams form up to accomplish the objectives.

i hope i didn't just jinx myself; but it's incredible the difference on both pve and pvp between order and dessie, even this early in the game.

I find it very frustrating playing on order. I have done a LOT of PvP and you kind of expect people know what to do. For instance when the flag goes up I say "Guarding Flag" and you kind of expect at least 3 others to follow your lead. But what happens is you may be get 1 maybe 2 who follow and the rest just run straight down the middle. You say go east or west and they still run down the middle. Then Dest flanks us and the flag