World of Warcraft

Originally posted by Rauge

 This may be the way you view it... but I think it was intended to be the other way around. The WAR launch would keep WoW WotLK people away. I mean... isn't there already half a million subscribers already? And I bet half of thoose or more (came from WoW) Thats 250k or more people not playing WotLK, but playing WAR instead. I could be entireally wrong... but this is the way I see it.

-Rauge  

And when WoTLK releases, about half of those that left are gonna be back.

That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

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Originally posted by eccoton

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Originally posted by Zyllos

Here is why WH is a let down, its not the 40k universe.

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Pappy you say WAR has only slightly better graphic the WAR? I have posted this picture in other threads. This is a dwarf in both WAR and WoW both at maxed graphic settings, my game play graphics. WAR takes a bit more power but not much more then WoW. You get much more graphic punch for you buck in WAR. You may like WoW's look better, but WAR has more advanced graphics

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well Mythic tryed to made their texturing job more complicate to satisfy those who didnt liked the simple texturing of WoW.

But they pretty messed up this part because they arent good at all in this domain without no experience, capacity to made shader 2.5 pretty interesting without GREAT artistic potentiel ( betwen you and me Blizzard or NcSoft * korean majority * are the best in this ) its like making a big sweet cake without the receip but we have the regeants, so they dont made any style in their world look like a big geometry war with better texturing but its kinda like duke nuken = to much complicate texturing for the art style used in the game ... * joke * ( lol where my leg ? .. ho shit ! I cant see my leg ho wait minute they are there hehe i was messing them with the floor )

Result in a big crap mixing to much texture without any artistic style

this is for kal-tard.u might want to check the 4000+ mythic banned for attempting to sell gold in WAR.mythic will ban anyone that is a reported goldspammer.i seriously doubt that mythic needs them to keep the company running.they made plenty from DAoC.

Originally posted by Pappy13

Originally posted by Rauge

 This may be the way you view it... but I think it was intended to be the other way around. The WAR launch would keep WoW WotLK people away. I mean... isn't there already half a million subscribers already? And I bet half of thoose or more (came from WoW) Thats 250k or more people not playing WotLK, but playing WAR instead. I could be entireally wrong... but this is the way I see it.

-Rauge  

 

And when WoTLK releases, about half of those that left are gonna be back.

That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Well... maybe about 1/4. The PvE lovers. Most people with common sense and a taste in PvE wouldn't touch this game with a ten foot pole. And thoose are the people going back to WoW.
 

-Rauge

Originally posted by Pappy13

Originally posted by fuzzylojik

You know when WoW came out how much problems there was with stats and how much tweaking they had to do?  Mages had horrible itemization, spirit was useless, every mage wanted lock set pieces, blue gear had some really messed up stats.  It's was really bad. +spell damage gear was also scaling very badly to a point where no casters wanted it at the start till they tweaked it the exact opposite way.  If you were there at the start you would have realised how messed up itemisation was in WoW.

You assume too much.  I've been playing WoW since beta.  I was there for the start and I'm still there.  It wasn't really bad, it was OK and it's gotten a lot better.  And there was still more variety than there is in War right now.

It was bad, the a lot of the stats were horrid.  Spell damage was terribly broken.  WoW's forte is itemisation anyways since it's an item centric game.

Besides WoW is more item centric than WAR, you just run in and RvR in WAR for fun not only doing the same stuff for rehashed gear.  WAR's PvP also revolves around renown and realm war.  I guess if you want a more item-centric PvP BG/Arena grind tho, WoW is a better game for you, just don't complain if different people like different things because that's the nature of things.  Me I find WAR a blast, items matter somewhat but it's just fun to PvP and RvR in WAR.

That doesn't mean they can just forget about itemization.  It's still a big part of the game.  Maybe not as big as WoW, but lets not kid ourselves, who doesn't want a nice new shiny piece of equipment from time to time?

And I'm not complaining, I'm giving my honest opinion in a thread that was started by someone else about a topic that has been a huge source of opinions from everyone from WoW fanboi's to War fanboi's and everyone in between.  I'm just trying to add my 2 cents (OK, more like a quarter's worth....sorry).  Feel free to ignore me.

You're missing the point of WAR i think, it's not solely focused on itemisation.  So far the equipment is fine to me, the stats work the way they are supposed to and it's on par with wow from launch with less broken stuff.  I don't think they are forgetting about it, you are presuming too much, it will improve just as WoW's improved.  PvP renown items need work but besides that I'm happy with it as most of the gear is transient and the fun is in the PvP.

Your opinion just differs from mine that's all as I was from WoW at the start on my mage and the itemisation was terrible.

 

Well I agree with the OP pretty much. I tried just about every class and couldn't even bare to get any of them past level 20. The pve was pretty dull except the PQs but there is so many times you can run PQs for loot before getting bored. The scenarios were fun for awhile but they were just so unorganized and waiting to get in one was ridiculous wait times, I tried serveral different servers to see if that would make difference and honestly it didn't. I tried rolling as shaman on the Vortex server and the wait times for scenarios was an hour. Noone does open RVR on the servers because the faction imbalance is just too lopsided. Destruction just out numbers Order too significantly. Oh and playing a greenskin just horribly reminded myself that i was playing WOW again. Took me 2 weeks (including OB) to get bored and wipe it off my pc. The ironic thing is though that AOC was way more fun but just way too buggy to play. Eventually I just had enough of that and wipe that off my pc as well. Oh well another year of disappointment yet again.

Interesting that you bring up AOC.  As much as i think AOC was a flawed failure to the mmo genre i kinda agree that the time i spent in AOC was more fun and interesting than WAR and i only got one character up to 32 in AOC and i got 4 characters to 10 in war.

I am not saying AOC is better than WAR but i had more fun personally with AOC. Also AOC actually had a feel to it and an interesting story, honestly i would have quit wow for AOC if it hadn't uber failed with bugs and lies.

damn i wish people would stop compairing war and wow like its a fact that the 2 games look alike, cuz they dont..

Why dont you get it ? its not the same ? if you loved wow, chances are you wont get WAR, WAR is not a PVE game its RvR at its core.

ts fine if you dont wanna play it or dont like it, but im getting sick of seeing " its not doing this and that as good as wow .." NO its doesnt AND you know why ? its not supposed to.. .

Go play some seriuos RVR with your mind on PVP, and if you dont like that well, fine go back to Arena and BG´s in WOW ..

I know this was not the topic here, but i just saw alot of people doin the comparisson in this thread and its starting to make me sick..