World of Warcraft

Originally posted by bodypass

Originally posted by fuzzylojik

 

Except you can't actually fight over the world because you can't capture anything worthwhile in PvP engame and all the endgame PvP that matters is instanced. LMAO.

DAOC had underwater fighting and it was what how 8 years ago? can't even remember lmao.

He has a point flying over places is boring to some.  I personally go get a drink when I have to fly on a flight path.  do you sit at your computer the whole time during the few minutes watching the flight everytime?  Pls answer this :)

 

> the point is very simple Fuzztalk....

and maybe your braincells don't seem to capture the fact that :

to create a full 3D world you actualy can fly over and land anywhere you want without a loading screen in sight, is MILES above the crap 2D animated loading screens you get in WAR.
 

HAlf of the WAR maps are filled with void and empty spaces of drawn up 2D/3D mountains you can't get up, you can't get over, you can't enter. And the world isn't even full 3D, because there is simply no space to fly over. It's empty window dressing between the flying paths.

If you don't see this high qualtity difference, well I must be talking to someone who doesn't want it to understand and that is exactly what you want isn't it?

The real FULL world  3D model is a years programming effort. Making an animated WAR 2D loading screen cover is a 2 days job of a graphics student.

Making all other lack of polisment in War so much more obvious. From server lag to clunky PvP. From poor class specs to scenario designs. From fast paced copy of Keeps to complete lack of decent CC specific classes.

How much more cuts do you want? And then they are surprised War isn't a Wow killer. How could it be? It lacks every new design aspect of the last 3 years shown in other games already.

 

Fuzztalk? Wow you can't even get my name right you must be getting confused with all your nicks.

Its ok Vicksburg/Memoir/Teamfortress/Bodypass/Hebenj you don't seem to understand the basic premise of flying mount virtually killing world PvP because people can just fly off.  (Except for the gankers who can gank lower levels without said mounts).

You do not seem to understand that I'm saying.  It's doesn't matter?  It killed world PvP (along with other factors of course like the 4 BGs and arenas)

Flying mounts were only released in the expansion btw.  At launch WoW there weren't any flying mounts. 

WAR2D loading screen?  you do know WoW has loading screens into dungeons right? LMAO.

What's polisment? LOL.

I like it fine, you tend to forget that WOW had nothing to offer at all endgame PvPers during launch and there was no endgame PvE as well except for a buggy MC where they made mods all unkillable because it wasn't complete.  They had broket itemisation for classes, and stats that didn't work very well (ie. spirit, spell damage) which were all fixed in the coming years to some extent.

At least WAR has Oceanic based servers on launch which blizz touted as implausable for years.

It has captureable keeps and world PvP objectives.

It has >20 scenarios vs WoW 4BGs in almost 4 years?

It's has a PvP endgame which is not solely item-centric.

I like WAR just fine.  It's a PvP game that's the way it is.  It has some things to iron out but you blasting it every chance you get on all your different nicks is just sad imo.

Meanwhile you don't realise all the flaws WoW has.  That's fanboism for you.

WoW has stuff going for it but to just keep slamming WAR over and over and promoting WoW unobjectively on several different accounts you have become the epitome of unrealistic biased fanboism Vicksburg.  At least have the courage to stick to one nick.

I for one never thought WAR will be the WOW killer, but you went out on a limb and stated that WAR would crash and burn down to how many subs in November?  Let's just see.  I've never seen someone try to hard to blatently wish something to fail.  It's hilarious really.

To me it's refreshing, it's fun and it's definitely intriguing to do massive keep battles once again.  To form large warband and crash with defenders pouring hot oil onto you then take the keep or get pushed back. 

www.fohguild.org/forums/mmorpg-general-discussion/35739-war-nda-officially-lifted-post-pics-info-4.html#post1168650

It looks pretty 3D to me. LOL.  Just ran through the T4 places today and it's breathtakingly beautiful.

So you can go stick to your flying mounts that killed world PvP.  I still think WoW is still a good game, and like blizzard as a company (I still play TFT) unlike you who blatently curses the very ground WAR threads on. 

Unfortunately, I feel they could have done so much with PvP aspects to make it a truely Massive experience like the whole horde vs alliance backdrop suggests.  Massive keep raids without takeble objectives away from item centricity. 

 www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/warhammeronline

If you're a hater you only look at bad aspects of something.  Look in your heart and seeing both sides will make you a much happier person imo.  (try to stick to one nick too lol)

Both games have flaws, so now what?

Originally posted by Mentat

I guess when Wotlk comes out I'll be back in there. I played War for a little over a week now. It's not bad but, it's also not that good either.

The graphics look nice but, the gameplay isn't nearly as smooth and the gold spammers are frikkin all over that game and unlike WoW there is no program to automatically remove and ignore them.

 

*Laughs*

Two days and your post is out-of-date.

Love the ex-WoW players.  Can always tell as they try to Bunny-Hop their way to victory in WAR.  Or wonder why they cannot take down a Tank backed by a Healer, at all.  Or are puzzled when the old 'run-through-the-enemy, spin and hit' no longer works.

Need a new way to think and play for WAR.  Unlike Bliz, Mythic has been at PvP as its main-line play model for many, many years.  This is NOT a 1-1 PvP game. It is a Many on Many RvR game.  Without thinking and teamwork, you are toast in RvR and Scenarios, if you are up against a real RvR Team.

don't get why people compare or diss either game. for starters there completely different. Second WoWs been out for how many years now!? Of course theres more content. Honestly I'll never bad mouth a game thats successful and fun which both these titles are. To be honest the only game ive ever talked smack about is AoC and for very very very good reason. I WANT MY $50 BACK YOU FAILCOM REJECTS!

Oh and about the gold spammers like i said before just report them and then they get banned. Blizzard doesnt even ban the buggers and there more rampant in their game than in most f2p games

Originally posted by Mentat

I guess when Wotlk comes out I'll be back in there. I played War for a little over a week now. It's not bad but, it's also not that good either.

The graphics look nice but, the gameplay isn't nearly as smooth and the gold spammers are frikkin all over that game and unlike WoW there is no program to automatically remove and ignore them.

 

You know what ?  Since some have forgotten ??   WOW had the same problems with these issues!

And yet people just go around trying to bring down a New game cause THE KING of MMOS The Only True Game is World Of Warcraft, is the only game to set years beyond the gaming..

Im sorry you feel this way, do me a faver just stop now and wait for the game to be out as long as WOW to go around sending out a message that War is ..  Bad and it dont have this or that !

If you dont like a game?  Cool with me just stop these kind of Events to pull people out to make up there minds from what you have to say is bad..

Everyone has rights to say what they want, just that your upset over gold sellers, is not a reason to call out that its the end of things ?

So if you dont like what i said here..  Fine with me, just stop this, were all gamers and we need to just get along here..

Thank you...

a vast majority of WoW players werent even around till BC came out so most don't know how bad it was for the first half of year in WoW. hahaha

Originally posted by Pappy13

Originally posted by puma713

Secondly, I didn't "come to the WoW forums" to poke prods at the WoW beasts.  What I did do is see a post on the main page of mmorpg.com (a public site, last time I checked) and responded to what someone was saying about WAR being a huge letdown, and why it wasn't for me.  Well, on the way to do that, I got sidetracked by Pappy's outline of what was bad about WAR that was better in WoW.  So I added my two or three cents.

I owe you an apology then.  I didn't know this thread started on the main forums and was moved here, it was already here when I posted.  That has happened to me as well and I HATE that they do that.  In fact I started a thread here in the WoW forums about War (because I was trying to inform the WoW players, not stir up trouble in the War forums) and they moved it to the War Forums.  I was furious and went and deleted all my comments, so I sympathize.

Just wanted you to know I have not taken offense to anything you have said.  You've debated the points well.  I love a good debate.

Apology accepted, Pappy.

Originally posted by Shoal

Originally posted by Mentat

I guess when Wotlk comes out I'll be back in there. I played War for a little over a week now. It's not bad but, it's also not that good either.

The graphics look nice but, the gameplay isn't nearly as smooth and the gold spammers are frikkin all over that game and unlike WoW there is no program to automatically remove and ignore them.

 

 

*Laughs*

Two days and your post is out-of-date.

Love the ex-WoW players.  Can always tell as they try to Bunny-Hop their way to victory in WAR.  Or wonder why they cannot take down a Tank backed by a Healer, at all.  Or are puzzled when the old 'run-through-the-enemy, spin and hit' no longer works.

Need a new way to think and play for WAR.  Unlike Bliz, Mythic has been at PvP as its main-line play model for many, many years.  This is NOT a 1-1 PvP game. It is a Many on Many RvR game.  Without thinking and teamwork, you are toast in RvR and Scenarios, if you are up against a real RvR Team.

Amen to that Shoal !

Like ive been saying if you dont like the game, why be bashing it ?  Just go play??  You feel much better with some Cookies and Milk..  :)