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Krasher  10/03/08 9:33:48 AM

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I played for about a month or so after initial release then stopped. Cant recall why exactly but I am sure my addiction to a certin other game (hint...me an 10 million others) had something to do with it.

Anyway, this game may be the best kept secret in MMO's. It has, by far the best graphics (I have played AoC and LoTR is far better). It uses DirectX 10 (only current MMO?)  and is just plain fun. I hope more people will give it a try. Dont expect it to compete membership wise with above un-named game...but would like for it to stay around for a long time. I think espec ially those that think AoC is best graphically should give it a shot. They are in for a surprise.

 

 
Papadam  10/03/08 9:38:24 AM

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hmm Im a LotrO fan and didnt like AoC at all.... but I must say that in my opinion AoC have better graphics over all! LotrO have some weak points but overall its a really great game and with Mines of Moria coming soon it will be even better!

 
neonwire  10/03/08 9:42:40 AM

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Its not a well known because it simply isnt a fact at all. The LoTRO graphics are not the best around. I thought they were rather bland and uninspired. Oh well each to their own I suppose.

 
Krasher  10/03/08 12:01:26 PM

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Originally posted by neonwire

Its not a well known because it simply isnt a fact at all. The LoTRO graphics are not the best around. I thought they were rather bland and uninspired. Oh well each to their own I suppose.


 

You cant possibly be playing LoTR in DX10 High Rez...its so much better then AoC it is not even close. Its not even possible for a non direct 10 game to compete graphically....maybe when AoC releases D10 version...things will change. To anyone with doubts...search for screenshots...and compare. Make sure the LoTR ones are the high rez d10 ones.

 

 
mrdoublerr  10/03/08 12:11:39 PM

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I played AoC and LOTR full setting DX10, and AoC is much better, no offence but if you remove the nice sky the pretty flower and the bloom the graphics arent that special.

 

 
openedge1  10/03/08 12:33:09 PM

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Originally posted by Krasher
Originally posted by neonwire

Its not a well known because it simply isnt a fact at all. The LoTRO graphics are not the best around. I thought they were rather bland and uninspired. Oh well each to their own I suppose.


 

You cant possibly be playing LoTR in DX10 High Rez...its so much better then AoC it is not even close. Its not even possible for a non direct 10 game to compete graphically....maybe when AoC releases D10 version...things will change. To anyone with doubts...search for screenshots...and compare. Make sure the LoTR ones are the high rez d10 ones.

 

Some issues with your statement.

The DX10 is not a full implementation, and as such has issues with ATI cards which require full DX10 compliance. Steefel has even stated this fact.

The models are much worse in LOTRO than AoC thanks to issues with body sculpting. Hands are too large, body posture is not based on mo-cap, males with 2 in. waists, Plate Armor that is as tight looking as Spandex.

As well, there is still the texture loading hitch issue apparent in certain areas (and no ...not just Bree)

As to making your "comparison" to AoC and LOTRO...Sure thing...

Misty Conan Evening

Realistic models and clothing design that looks like it is meant to be worn

Women that look real

Notice the ice hanging on the limbs of the trees

Realistic Fauna

Compared to

Males with size 2 waists

Unrealistic faces

Abnormal Posturing

Unrealistic Tree models

Tree DX10

And LOTRO has been lauded for it's "Water" effects...yet look at the Realistic Fauna picture for AoC, then look at the water in Tree DX10. Notice the ripples of the water at the players feet in AoC?

I disagree 100% with your assesment.

Now, of course, I like the Comic art of Jim Lee and maybe you like Jack Kirby...who knows. But, we each may have a differeing opinion based on our likes and dislikes. I prefer more realism in my Low Fantasy MMO, and maybe you like a more stylized look. Then of course we will disagree.

Based on these shots above, I will take AoC's art.

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Kokushibyou  10/03/08 12:54:44 PM

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I like LOTRO a lot, but I wouldn't say it has the best graphics.   They are good, and better than WAR or WoW, but AoC and Vanguard (yes VG sucks as a game, but the graphics are good) have better graphics.   An as for DX10, I have tried switching over twice now and both times had to switch back because the performance dropped off so much in DX10.

I do agree with the OP that people should give it a try because the gameplay in LOTRO is great, lots of RP opportunities and good quests with well written storylines. 

 
neonwire  10/03/08 12:55:45 PM

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Originally posted by openedge1
Originally posted by Krasher
Originally posted by neonwire

Its not a well known because it simply isnt a fact at all. The LoTRO graphics are not the best around. I thought they were rather bland and uninspired. Oh well each to their own I suppose.


 

You cant possibly be playing LoTR in DX10 High Rez...its so much better then AoC it is not even close. Its not even possible for a non direct 10 game to compete graphically....maybe when AoC releases D10 version...things will change. To anyone with doubts...search for screenshots...and compare. Make sure the LoTR ones are the high rez d10 ones.

 

Some issues with your statement.

The DX10 is not a full implementation, and as such has issues with ATI cards which require full DX10 compliance. Steefel has even stated this fact.

The models are much worse in LOTRO than AoC thanks to issues with body sculpting. Hands are too large, body posture is not based on mo-cap, males with 2 in. waists, Plate Armor that is as tight looking as Spandex.

As well, there is still the texture loading hitch issue apparent in certain areas (and no ...not just Bree)

As to making your "comparison" to AoC and LOTRO...Sure thing...

Misty Conan Evening

Realistic models and clothing design that looks like it is meant to be worn

Women that look real

Notice the ice hanging on the limbs of the trees

Realistic Fauna

Compared to

Males with size 2 waists

Unrealistic faces

Abnormal Posturing

Unrealistic Tree models

Tree DX10

And LOTRO has been lauded for it's "Water" effects...yet look at the Realistic Fauna picture for AoC, then look at the water in Tree DX10. Notice the ripples of the water at the players feet in AoC?

I disagree 100% with your assesment.

Now, of course, I like the Comic art of Jim Lee and maybe you like Jack Kirby...who knows. But, we each may have a differeing opinion based on our likes and dislikes. I prefer more realism in my Low Fantasy MMO, and maybe you like a more stylized look. Then of course we will disagree.

Based on these shots above, I will take AoC's art.

Thanks

 

Yep based on those screenshots AoC kicks LoTRO arse without breaking a sweat. There really isnt any comparison. Hmmm its almost tempting to ignore all the negative posts about AoC and give it a go actually. One of the things I have found about mmos is that essentially they all have shitty boring gameplay but if I have something decent to look at while I grind my way through the shopping list of silly quests then I can at least feel some sense of immersion. This is why I couldnt enjoy LoTRO. Not only was it a boring grind but it wasnt interesting to look at either.

I'm currently playing Warhammer and although the PvE aspect is the same old repetitive crap, the PvP aspect adds a level of diversity that you can never get in pure PvE games like LoTRO......although I suppose you could count monster play I guess. Fighting a real player is so much more interesting than playing against the computer......although the PvE stuff can be ok with a group.

Oops I've gone off topic. Sorry.

 
blindside044  10/03/08 4:15:59 PM

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Originally posted by neonwire

although I suppose you could count monster play I guess. Fighting a real player is so much more interesting than playing against the computer......although the PvE stuff can be ok with a group.


 

hmm.. I'm not sure you know what monster play is. You ARE fighting real players, they are just in the form of monster (orcs, weavers, wargs)... as you can see in my signature, I play one of those monsters.. and enjoy it very much so  :)

 
Umbral  10/03/08 4:37:25 PM