World of Warcraft

The only gear availible with just honor and tokens with be some welfare blues, some crafted blues and some random pieces of epix and from then on its arena or bust. I'm yet to see one single person agree on the forums that they want 100% focus on arena yet blizzard implemented it, they even added a hint that they reduced it to 10 matches/week because they know everyone hates arena.

I really wish they would stop ignoring their portion of customers that hate raiding and arena, I jus wanna log in and gank people! :P

Time for a new game? doesnt sound like your into raiding to much.

they're desire to push arenas is why i cancelled my account of 3 years. i can log onto warhammer and have my daggers in someones back in under 2 minutes. i love wow and i'd say its still probably the most fun i've had online but its just not a pvpers game.

I prefered the PVP back when there was no BG's and we all used to do world PVP and it didn't matter that there was no effect on the world because raiding a city with loads of people and the whole tauren mill thing was just fun.

All my friends but one quit after TBC because it ruined the game.

Originally posted by grimboj

The only gear availible with just honor and tokens with be some welfare blues, some crafted blues and some random pieces of epix and from then on its arena or bust. I'm yet to see one single person agree on the forums that they want 100% focus on arena yet blizzard implemented it, they even added a hint that they reduced it to 10 matches/week because they know everyone hates arena.

I really wish they would stop ignoring their portion of customers that hate raiding and arena, I jus wanna log in and gank people! :P

The problem, as they have already stated, is that they haven't yet developed a way to reward the 'good' pvpers in BGs.  The problem with BC was that people would just grind through BGs and get epics without ever proving they were doing anything other than queueing.   The reason Arena can reward players is because there is a clear ladder system.

In beta, the devs said one of their highest priorites will be developing some sort of  ranking system for BGs so they can reward gear equivalent to the best Arena gear.   The current system has nothing to do with esports.. it has much more to do with a way to figure out who the good pvpers are in BGs.

I know sometimes in BGs, I don't pay a lot of attention. I'll do AV and just run in the middle of the pack, casting spells now and then and doing a decent amount of damage.  I could never do something like that in Arenas and get the best gear.

The talk always comes down to "well reward the people with the most kills, or the top dpsers and healers" etc... but that totally takes a lot of strategy out of most of the BGs which require defense and guarding.

I'd like to take this opportunity to post your ideas on this question.   Lets say 100 people do 100 BGs..  how would you determine who the best 10 are?

Yeah some of the good BG players get the shaft but don't blame blizzard, blame all the AFK losers, they tried lots of other things to stop them but they kept doing it -shrug-

Arena's have always only taken 10 games a week to maintain a good decent rating, i can't say if i like arena's or not, i havn't tried them yet.  I'm sure people will rush in here claiming how bad things are thats why the afk but it doesn't matter what your excuse is, blizz doesn't want afkers so they will do whatever they have to, to stop it.  There are people who think Arena and BG's are perfectly fine so really nobody is right or wrong about them.

Warhammer Online is that way. ->

Will people that use the Arena have to maintain a certain rating to wear epics? Or will it be based purely on arena points? 

Yea, I hate to say it, but WoW is a PVE dominant game. PvP is not the game's strength. You may want to give WAR a go if PvP is your thing