WAR (Warhammer Online)

Pretty sure everyone other than IBs are gonna be really happy if/when the new patch goes live with the proposed dual nerf to grudge gain and decay. Grudge gain in the current version of the game is OP but this change is just retarded. Kudos to Mythic for destroying the only real tank that the order has. Anything other than a vengence IB is gonna be a joke now. 

Oathfriend:
0-50: 5 Per
51-75: 3 Per
76-100: 1 Per.

Decay:
20 seconds at 5 per second.

So basically my friends gotta take 56 hits for me to get angry? And with the decay this is gonna make people think twice before using any grudge based abilities (the staple of Brotherhood and Stone IBs). Why would i waste 30 secs worth of grudge on a 3 sec knockdown? And how do they justify it conceptually that we get less angry the more you hit on our friend.

*smack*
How dare you hit my friend?
*chop*
You're making me very angry when you hit him!
*stab*
Actually, I'm not as angry about it as I thought I would be.
*slice*
But I'm warning you, I'm still pretty angry.
*kick*
Who am I kidding? I'm not angry.
*bash*
Go ahead, just beat on him, I don't care.
*crush*
Maybe I'll care when you hit him thirty more times.

The exact oppsite of that an IB should be. But hey lets buff all the DoT skills, coz clearly the Bright Wizards and Witch Elves need it. GG Mythic GG

Last time I checked IB were tanks not melee dps. Also snares/cc is getting a large nerf next patch, bad news for ranged dps. Being an overlypowerfull class is fun for some, not so much the people on the other end of the stick. (or in your case, axe.)

It's called balancing, be grateful.

Originally posted by Obzerver

. Kudos to Mythic for destroying the only real tank that the order has. Anything other than a vengence IB is gonna be a joke now.

QFT.

Before that patch, Destro ranked numerous tanks§marauders on the frontline, and Order barely got away with a 1-2 IB and the odd swordmaster or white lion.

Now, the only thing Mythics finds out is nerfing the only really played Order tank, effctively worsening the faction unbalance by making the only real Order tank a pain to play/.

After crappy RvR, we get more faction unbalance. GG Mythic.

this change could be in preparation of the 2 new tanks being introduced later.  The new classes are basically an Iron Breaker for Destruction and a Chosen for Order.  This nerf might be to keep the Destruction tank, that will be introduced in about 2 weeks, from being overpowered along with their Iron Breaker counterpart.

Come again after trying the class after the patch. To clarify if it really "unbalances" anything :P

And yes, BW's and WE's "need" those changes for the DoTs. Since DoT's were completely broken and unreasonable damage-wise for all classes. It was in the mechanics. Since hey, whaddya know, BW's are and were never OVERPOWERED. Seriously. Other classes just needed to be slightly better to be noticed. And that is happening with the new patch.

So, if I understand them correctly the BIG balance change still comes out in patch 1.1 in December. I hope the classes won't just get twitches and balance changes but minor REVAMPS aswell.

Originally posted by Omega3

Originally posted by Obzerver

. Kudos to Mythic for destroying the only real tank that the order has. Anything other than a vengence IB is gonna be a joke now.

QFT.

Before that patch, Destro ranked numerous tanks§marauders on the frontline, and Order barely got away with a 1-2 IB and the odd swordmaster or white lion.

Now, the only thing Mythics finds out is nerfing the only really played Order tank, effctively worsening the faction unbalance by making the only real Order tank a pain to play/.

After crappy RvR, we get more faction unbalance. GG Mythic.

These changes would be absolutely devastating for Order.  Ironbreakers are the ONLY Order tanks that you could find in some sort of quantity and geared for it, and the total number of Order tanks are miniscule compared to Destruction tanks.

I'm not sure WTH Mythic is thinking.  They want to Nerf the ONLY worthwhile Order tank, and let me be blunt... Swordmasters are horrible tanks for PvP compared to IB's.

As if Order doesn't have things hard enough as it is.

Freakin' Morons.

Originally posted by Warmaker 

These changes would be absolutely devastating for Order.  Ironbreakers are the ONLY Order tanks that you could find in some sort of quantity and geared for it, and the total number of Order tanks are miniscule compared to Destruction tanks.

I'm not sure WTH Mythic is thinking.  They want to Nerf the ONLY worthwhile Order tank, and let me be blunt... Swordmasters are horrible tanks for PvP compared to IB's.

As if Order doesn't have things hard enough as it is.

Freakin' Morons.

It gets even worse, after November 17 we will see two new tanks, the blackguard and the knight of the blazing sun.

The blackguard use the same mechanics as the IB except he gets his grudge from attacking enemies, not being attacked making him without question the most powerful tank in the game even compared to the current prenerf IB.

No one hits on a tank anyway until the fight is already over and decided so a defense grudge system is useless in PvP except for the oathfriend which was the mechanics that is broken now.

The Knight otoh is a weak mirror of the chosen, he only buff but dont debuff enemies.

So order gets its only good tank nerfed into the ground. Destruction gets another cool looking tank that is stronger than the prenerf IB and order gets a weaker version of the already worst tank in the game. . . .

I wonder what they are smoking at mythic? :D

 Really looking forward to the Black Guard. The Knight of the Blazing Sun will probably be as boring as the Chosen, but if the Black Guard is anything like the Ironbreaker he should be plenty popular.

isn't it still in testing?