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Interesting video...

fishermage.blogspot.com/2008/11/how-obama-got-electedinterviews-with.html

I can't believe they didn't know who Barney Frank is.  He had a big hand in creating the current economic problems we are facing by blocking motions against Freddie Mac in the Finance Committee, while recieving campaign contributions from them.  Whats worse is he was the one writing the $700 Billion Bail Out.

They're almost as dumb as these people...almost.

www.youtube.com/watch

Obama was elected because

1. He ran a 2 billion dollar campaign (including freebies from the media); and
2. Republican-domination bankrupted our country.

It is strange how people have called for the regulation of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, now in conservatorship, yet do not want to regulate the investment banks who were engaged in high risk investments that broke them and their insurers.

And the Democrats did not have enough of a majority in the Senate to pass anything; we still do not.

We still need more Democrats to really "fix" the mess the country is in; achieve a pro middle-class agenda; reform both health care and the tax code; withdraw from foreign territories; and rebuild America.

Originally posted by declaredemer

Obama was elected because

1. He ran a 2 billion dollar campaign (including freebies from the media); and
2. Republican-domination bankrupted our country.

 

It is strange how people have called for the regulation of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, now in conservatorship, yet do not want to regulate the investment banks who were engaged in high risk investments that broke them and their insurers.

 

And the Democrats did not have enough of a majority in the Senate to pass anything; we still do not.

 

We still need more Democrats to really "fix" the mess the country is in; achieve a pro middle-class agenda; reform both health care and the tax code; withdraw from foreign territories; and rebuild America.

 

 

Socialism never rebuilt anything.

There were far more Democratic hands on this economic mess than Republican ones. It's not even close.

Fillibuster proof congress.  The Republicans didn't have this.  What happened in regards to Freddie Mac is that all the democrats on the Financial Services Committee were in the tank for Freddie Mac.  They blocked multiple attempts in committee from reaching the congress floor that would have put regulation on Freddie Mac.

To say its hard to believe democrats didn't want regulation isn't exactly evidence.  There are tapes of these committees throughout the net that has Barney Frank calling them heroines for providing these loans, and said that despite the regulator bringing up these issues Congress should not take action.

Originally posted by Fishermage

Socialism never rebuilt anything.

There were far more Democratic hands on this economic mess than Republican ones. It's not even close.

1. Who wants socialism?
2. What is socialism?  Do you mean a socialized fire department; police force; or what?
3. Both.  I think there are Republican fingerprints all over a lot of mishaps during the period of Republican-domination.  I say, to a much greater degree, Republicans are responsible:
   1. Tax policies
   2. Economic policies
   3. Deregulation
   4. Foreign Misadventures
   5. Mismanagement of Crises
   6. Lost, Stolen, Wasted Money in Iraq and Elsewhere

Originally posted by declaredemer

Originally posted by Fishermage

Socialism never rebuilt anything.

There were far more Democratic hands on this economic mess than Republican ones. It's not even close.

 

1. Who wants socialism?
2. What is socialism?  Do you mean a socialized fire department; police force; or what?
3. Both.  I think there are Republican fingerprints all over a lot of mishaps during the period of Republican-domination.  I say, to a much greater degree, Republicans are responsible:
   1. Tax policies
   2. Economic policies
   3. Deregulation
   4. Foreign Misadventures
   5. Mismanagement of Crises
   6. Lost, Stolen, Wasted Money in Iraq and Elsewhere

 

Socialism is when the government controls the means of production, whether through ownership (pure socialism) or through regulation (fascism, syndicalism, or welfare statism).

No, I don't mean state agencies, we are discussing the Federal government here. Either way, the fire department and the police department don't rebuild things either (context, context context).

tax policies had nothing to do with the current crisis, neither do "economic policies," whatever that means. This was a procuct of decades of socialism, and the checkens are coming home to roost. Socialist republicans had a hand in it as well, but the lion's share of blame obviously goes to the party that actually ADVOCATES socialism.

Mismanagement of crisis? That's democrats again.

War? has nothing to do with the current crisis -- regardless, Obama will be no different. Get ready for Africa.

More ranting? dude, give it up, go outside and take a deep breath for once. Are you gonna be on about this for the next 4 years? Eventually people will just start ignoring all your threads. The party is over, it's to late to bitch now.

Originally posted by tillamook

More ranting? dude, give it up, go outside and take a deep breath for once. Are you gonna be on about this for the next 4 years? Eventually people will just start ignoring all your threads. The party is over, it's to late to bitch now.

Actually, the party is just beginning. Correction: it hasn't even begun yet.

The only one ranting, or bitching,  here is YOU.