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Yep what wumptrooper said, Claus was the creator of Darkfall and is the lead developer, there are 4 others who are also developers  originally from the start under Razorwax that still work on the project.

Tasos is only their PR guy and part investor/owner, he has no previous experience or qualifications in actual game development.

Tasos is really getting desperate now, on the first day of the last month of this year.

Instead of updating the community about this “schedule for open beta to end in early December” or this “official company commitment to launch within the year”

He posts a link to a beta preview his friend is doing under NDA on a website Aventurine hosts.

The amazing thing is some people even thank him for this and ask for more.

Or still believe open beta and a successful launch have any chance of happening this year.

And remember if your not in beta yet, don’t take it personally, its likely you don’t fit their immediate testing needs, there are a lot of criteria, but they can be as simple as

You being a member of Darkfalls community staff
You being a close personal long term friend of the developers
You being a long term supporter associated with the developers
You being willing to fly to Athens to visit Aventurine
Your website is hosted by Aventurine

Originally posted by jy88902

Originally posted by daarco

Ok!

I ¨ll post it again.....this was the introduction to a review.....not the review itself.

 

Part 1 of the "review itself" has already been posted, so you might want to rephrase that a little bit.

This is exactly what the supporters said about the MMORPGItalia beta review as well, they said it was not the full review, but of course it was.

The truth is this is all they have to talk about, because this is all there is to do in the game.

They are getting wiped regularly and they only have goblins, some quests to kill goblins and rudimentary crafting and resource gathering in the starting areas to talk about.

There is currently nothing else in this feature complete and almost ready to release game 1 month from its launch deadline.

NeroScuro I think you have me confused with somebody else, I’ve never been banned.

Game has been in beta for years according to the developers, this is the third time they have officially said beta is starting and second time I have signed up for beta, not to mention years of beta “soon”, this is nothing new.

Getting their friends to preview their game under NDA with only 1 month left to meet their official company commitment to launch and a few days before open beta is scheduled to end is just another pathetic whimper in my opinion.

Just because they let a few more of their friends and moderators into the testing this time is not exactly anything to get excited about, in fact it shows just how little progress they have made in over 8 years, they are still only in very early beta stage.

Nor is the fact that even with their friends and supporters previewing their feature complete and almost ready to launch game its painfully obvious how misleading they are still being about this games true state of development.
 

At least this person declared their association with Aventurine outright this time, instead of just pretending they were honest and unbiased.

I don’t think you understand what the word objective means.

Perhaps the explanation in blonde’s post above yours might help you understand.

They did not in 2003 or in 2005 so don’t get upset if they don’t again in 2008 either.

Seriously come one, who are they kidding.

“I’ve been a good friend of Claus and Tasos for many years and we’ve played MMO’s together in the past.”

“They’ve hosted The Noob since 2005”

Also notice the total contradiction:

“I haven't followed the evolution of the game before beta, so don't expect any deep insight.

But then:

“I've reciprocated the favour by asking them "wtf, when's beta starting?" no more than twice a week for the last nine years.”

So you’ve not followed the evolution of the game before beta but you have been asking when’s beta starting for last 9 years and you are friends of the developers, and you play MMO’s with them and you’ve done comics about their game on the website they host, yeah right.

It’s the old “I don’t know anything about this game or its past, but its looks great to me” routine.

You have also “reciprocated the favour by” writing this promotional puff piece without an ounce of objectivity.

Once again notice how they only talk about making a new character in the starting area and killing goblins?

My wild guess is that next part will cover crafting, because there’s nothing else left to preview.

Thats all Darkfall is currently.

Its obvious now only a small number of community moderators and longer term supporters and friends are in this public beta, what a farce.

All of this recent “publicity” is just an attempt to get the maximum positive coverage possible whilst showing the least amount of the game as possible before they inevitably delay the launch again or they just release unfinished.

What a joke, Tasos and Claus let their friend preview their game under NDA, unsurprisingly they say its good.

"The announcement during ADW was that the open beta phase is scheduled to end early in December. More importantly this means that the game will be ready to release at that point. Marketing consideration kept us from just announcing a release date. The game will be ready for release, and the launch may follow directly, or shortly after, depending on the marketing landscape at the time. Obviously the earlier the better for us, but there are a lot of things needing coordination for the launch, internal and external. So our side of things (meaning the development end) will be ready."

I think Tasos has already really announced the delay of the games launch in October 31st update part 1.

Apparently marketing considerations and their landscapes as well as a lot of external and internal things that need coordination might delay the launch of the game even though actual development will be finished and the game will be ready for release.

So basically what I think Tasos is saying is we have done are part but the publisher and other partners might hold up the launch and be a cause for delay, but its not are fault because the game will be ready for release.

Blaming their publisher or GNi or the state of the market or anything else beyond their control for the launch delay could buy Aventurine some more time, but I’m not sure how much.

Remember he used the word “scheduled” to end in early December, so he can get out of this one easily by just saying they are behind on this schedule without any further clarification.

This is similar to when he said earlier this year that public beta would precede launch by a “few weeks“.

But then later backtracked saying public beta would not be “two weeks” but they hoped it would only be “several weeks”, but it would be as long as needed.

The thing that is much harder for Tasos and Aventurine to get out of is this official company commitment to launch within 2008 that is not a guestimate, they have mentioned this several times and on the 17 min video also.

What’s makes it even harder to get out of is their previous statements saying they would not announce a date as only a goal or one that they would then miss, postpone, or be forced to release unfinished to meet.

Not to mention they have also said they are “resolved” to stick with their release date and theirs no way they would miss their release date.

A very sticky position to be in, of course only people who have actually read or remember what Aventurine have said exactly over the past year concerning beta and release will appreciate this.
 

I agree, like I just said this thread is about MMORPG getting access to Darkfall beta for preview/review purposes not TTH.

I only brought it up because it proves that Aventurine are ignoring enquires from other members of the mainstream gaming media.

Which supports my opinion that MMORPG will also be ignored.

Hopefully I will be wrong but I doubt it.

This thread is about MMORPG getting access to Darkfall beta for preview/review purposes.

Not TTH getting access to Darkfall beta.

That is the context of my comments.

I don’t think they will get access, I think they will be ignored or refused, just like TTH was for this interview.

Read the post in its entirety before attempting to accuse me of being corrected or mistaken.

I never said TTH were requesting Beta access , this is pointless and stupid, but I understand why you are accusing me of doing it.

I want MMORPG or any other mainstream gaming media  to get access but I don't think it will happen, especially after TTH did not even get a reply after 2 weeks for just an interview.

I’ll ask one more time again,

Where did I say TTH were requesting Beta access?

All I’m seeing demonstrated so far is selective quoting, poor reading comprehension and inability to understand context.

Where did I say TTH were requesting Beta access?, I did not, anyone clicking on the links I provided could see it said “interview”.

I just said other people have made requests to TTH to make similar enquires towards Aventurine.

We did not know what form this “interview” would be in until after Zorvan contacted the member of staff from TTH and clarified what form it would have been in.

That’s why I said it was only a “related” update and that it was only “similar enquires” not exactly the same enquiry.

Selective quoting out of context and poor reading comprehension does not demonstrate I have mistakenly interpreted anything or that I have been corrected.

The only people who have been mistakenly interpreting anything and have been corrected are the supporters declaring this TTH thing was fake, or any other of the excuses they came up with about TTH.

Until members of the mainstream gaming press like MMORPG.com are allowed access to Darkfall public beta  I will continue to be correct and unmistaken.

What are you talking about?

Please demonstrate how you have come to the conclusion I have “mistakenly interpreted what was posted” and where I exactly have been “corrected”.

Personally from years of experience I think its unreasonable to assume anything concerning this game.

But if the word of Brannoc is good enough for this site then that’s that.

Thanks for the time you spent on this VPellen, just reaffirms why I think this is not just the biggest but also the best MMORPG website.
 

Thanks for the update Zorvan.

Just more red flags after 8 years of red flags.

Still interested in any updates from MMORPG staff but I think its pretty obvious they will also be ignored.

I love the usual personal assurance that they can fix this they can fix that, its only a small problem, its not important,its not their fault, it will be done after launch or in beta, it will be different for release.

Maybe, might, possibly, its got potential.

They have had 8 years to work on this game, if they did not fix any of these so called small problems in the last 8 years there’s very little chance they will fix them in the 1 month they have left to start and finish open beta and then launch the game, not to mention do the hundred other things needed for a successful launch.

Some of these issues are fundamental design choices and technical issues concerning their network, server and client.

Every time people finally get to start seeing what state their beloved game is actually in the denial sets in.

What you see is what you get, at least what they are willing to let us see 1 month from launch, so who knows what everything else they are not showing is like, could be even worse or non existent.

That’s why I personally cant believe they would attempt to launch with this, so I’m now quite sure the whole launch within 2008 official company commitment and the schedule for open beta to end in early December were just more of the same misleading and unrealistic predictions they have been making for the last 8 years.
 

Just a friendly reminder to the current supporters who have obviously only been following Darkfall since relatively recently or have poor memory’s, TTH has already done at least one interview with Aventurine before.

Would not surprise me that they declined the opportunity this time though , simply because its highly likely open beta and release will not happen this year despite Aventurines assurances to the contrary, and they are the first things any objective professionals would ask the developer about with only 1 month left.

That’s probably why they are still sticking with the anonymous fans and supporters visit their offices and says how awesome and fantastic everything is routine.

Everything has to be fake that portrays this game negatively to some people thoough now doesn’t it?, just looks like the knee jerk damage control reaction to me.

The links to the post not working does not “prove” its fake, it could simply mean the thread was deleted.

Hopefully Zorvan will get a reply and this can be resolved.

Why anyone would declare this was fake outright seems silly to me, Aventurine have spent the last 5 years hiding their game from the mainstream press, I don’t see why them declining this interview would be that difficult to believe.