All Posts by Leucent

This game seems interesting. I think i ll see if it will keep me occupied with my WAR beta till WARs release:)

Ok so it says you have 3 days left does that mean we can t get a true evaluation till those days are over? Thanks for the reply. Im having the same issue lol no info and i just started it as well.

AOC won t fail, but IMO it will not be the mill subs people are claiming etc. The reason it s selling so well is theres nothing new up against it atm. Is that smart to release with nothing up against you sure. That said it would have been better to release in a more release ready state. I think when the first 30 days are up we ll see more and in all honesty when WAR releases(in beta and it s in good shape IMO) that will take the biggest toll on AOC subs. It will still do well but 1 mill i think not.

In beta and i picked 10 :) Think that tells you how i feel the game will be lol.

Originally posted by elvenangel

Mythic's NDA Is pretty open...you can say your in it..you can say you like it...you how ever can't talka bout any details that the Dev's haven't made public.

Exactly i never have had a problem saying i like it. I ll say one more thing, it s awesome :)

Originally posted by Servase

 

Originally posted by Adythiel

Most of this success is as a result of the popularity of World of Warcraft. The MMO industry circa 2004 when WoW came out was a niche industry. WoW blew up over the course of a couple years. Because of that, far more people know about the existence of this genre than did back in the mid 2000's. There are a lot of disgruntled WoW players looking for a new game. A few games are offering a WoWish style of approach (Fantasy themed) and those disgruntled players are jumping on it in droves.

 

Ugh.... WoW came out in 2005.. and this has nothing too do with WoW at all. There are games that were very successful in their time. The MMO industry started with games like Neverwinter Nights, DAoC, Everquest and Ultima Online. Anarchy Online was also a big hit.

World of Warcraft did nothing. Heck, the only credit you can give Blizzard is they attracted more 12yrs and retards that can't afford good pcs too the market. Now we have morons that can't play AoC on their P3 whining on these boards.

So ya, WoW did nothing but thanks. We would still have games like AoC, WAR etc today. Since Funcom and Mythic were in the MMO business long before Blizzard. Blizzard just wanted a piece of the pie and entered in themselves.

I disagree. WOW brought in many new players to MMO gaming. Now alot of them have only played WOW are looking for another option. So yes WOW does have something to do with it. If this game came out before WOW i can almost guarentee it wouldn t be as popular.

I agree completely. In beta as well and it looks and plays amazingly. It will be my home for many years.

Originally posted by Cabe2323

Originally posted by SignusM

This reminds me of the kind of letters the Vanguard producers would write, about all the things they're going to fix in the next patch! .......

Except Funcom has actually been fixing things and patching like crazy.  Plus they didn't have a completely broken product to begin with unlike Vanguard which was a total flop.

Fixing things is good obviously, but the game in a released state after all the warnings from CB people. should not need so many fixes. It should have been tested longer IMO. Anyways the fact they don t have ALOT implemented seems to me when they do those parts of the game are going to need fixing as well since it seems alot of the game is still under beta except you re paying for it now.

My guild is going Destruction. I am going DoK i just love the way it plays :) Who am i kidding i ll play every class i m sure on many servers lol but my mains will be with my guild of course.

I know alot of people enjoy the game, but it seems to me they did release it way too early. I know alot of  games release unfinished but i read this and think they were pressured big time to release ASAP. I don t care for it for more reasons then content but i m sure they ll add alot more. That said it should have been or more anyways been in before it was released. All these people in CB that said theres huge gaps of content etc in certain levels were right and i had a feeling they were.

Also you have to remember it s not like 500 of you show up and only 50 of you can go into this last step. It s many many many copies of the different parts of the city. If say for example theres 50 copies if the attackers win 26 they take it over.

Originally posted by elvenangel

the instancing is only part of the Siege they've been saying that since Paris adn it has nothing to do with performance and everything about allowing everyone to participate..what good is is to have a siege and get to do nothing beucase the first 50 people in the gate wiped everything out.

This is the case. It s to let everyone participate. You can t have a SERVER wide event all in one area and think it will be playable. I can assure you it s not going to happen everyday it will be rare. They want to make City Sieging a fun/epic event and don t want people doing it daily. That said if you re city is under attack they want everyone to have fun in the battle. the gates etc is not instanced it s the last part of the fight but it s necessary.

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by Leucent

Also Avery, they have alot of instanced BGs in WAR yes, but they have a ton of Open World RVR not FFA ganfests as options, which is far better then the unfinished options you have in AOC now. Will it change for the better probably, but for now my time in WAR beta is better then i had in AOC. You brought it up so i m countering.

I brought up AoC, EQ2, LotrO, and War combined with instances, its all relevant. The point is you say you guys dont like instances, you cant play a game these days without one. Thats all im saying. You only actually played maybe 10 hrs a friends house of AoC if I remember right and didnt like it? Thats cool I can appreciate your tastes and respect them. As I am in game your not (last time was what a week ago for you?, and based on limited game time) I am just relaying amongst all the bugs and such people are still having fun in AoC and are continuing to do so. I havent heard one bad instance remark yet. Minor bugs seem more to be the issue in game.

Its not about war, I just picked 4 top / popular games.

Fair enough but i am in beta and understand with feedback they added alot of Open World rvr. I will agree without what they added i wouldn t like the game as much, but the fact they did and the emphasis is less on instanced areas makes it a plus. Yes i played the game at a friends not much at all. Hes in the guild i mentioned along with 30 or so in that guild that played AOC. They all didn t like it as a whole. I didn t buy the game but figured next best thing is see it for free with my own eyes. Now the one thing you have to understand is this. WAR does not use anything like EQ2 and AOC. Instances yes but not in the gameworld as a whole. Theres the big difference. I can run for a very long time without an instance at all. In AOC i go into a shop and it s instanced, wtf is that. As i said before if you like it great, we didn t thats it end of story.

Also Avery, they have alot of instanced BGs in WAR yes, but they have a ton of Open World RVR not FFA ganfests as options, which is far better then the unfinished options you have in AOC now. Will it change for the better probably, but for now my time in WAR beta is better then i had in AOC. You brought it up so i m countering.

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

 

Originally posted by Leucent

Originally posted by Fion

 

Originally posted by Leucent

Originally posted by Fion

Exactly. It seems the only people that really have a problem with the instancing are folks like the guy above your post. IE people with an agenda. Trolls, haters, and fanboi's of other games.

This is so not true. There are many people saying they don t like it , but are waiting a few months to see what happens. Does this make them a troll, hater, or fanbois of another game. I can say from my personal experience, that i know of at least 30 people who could care less if the game suceeds or not wont be playing it due to this and other reasons. These 30 people are members of a guild i m in , in other games. It s simply this, not everyone is going to like it, and being that you re a close second only behing Avery as AOC s fanbois, of course you ll say this.

 

So 'at least' 30 members of your guild all hate the instancing so bad they plan on leaving if it doesn't change before the end of their free month or soon after?

Why does that strike me as odd? Oh yea, because not a single person I've talked to in game really cares about it, and I'm part of the one of the largest guilds on Wiccana and not a one of them gives a rats ass about the instancing.

Granted, I can see it being more an issue on PvP servers, and I should have said 'most', not 'all.' But my post was pertaining more to forums like these then in game players. It seams on the forums the whole issue is mostly used as a bullet point as to why the game 'sucks' or '= fail' or what have you.

No what i said  was they don t like instancing period. Why is that odd. We tried the game didn t like it as a guild so we decided to leave. Did you hear us in game no because we didn t talk to you or any other person in game about it. By the sound of it you must have talked to everybody in game? I guess because you seem to know everything, everyone is thinking. Not to mention what they all like and dislike.  Get it through your head this game isn t for everyone and never will be, if some have problems with it for whatever reason, calm down , chill out and forget it. You can t change peoples minds with your oh so favorable fanbois propaganda.

wait so taverns in AoC are an instance just like in Lotro taverns with a loading screen

 

AoC's Zones are like EQ2's.

Cant wait till your try warhammers "instanced" scenerios, especially as they will be a main staple / integral part of the game, and originally designed like this with 'more open' world added it as an afterthought from feedback.

Point is instancing is here to stay, its useful for how the game is set up and design. Sure there are 5 loading screens in tortage area, get out of that and you have the regular zone instances on the main land, just like EQ2.

Many thousands of people are enjoying the game on my sever too, the in depth life in each area, more so than anyother game i've played makes me feel more immersed than ever. A loading screen for a couple seconds here or there does nothing for me.

Where were all these complaints when EQ2 came out ?

Where did i once mention WAR , why did you have to. One i m trying WAR now so what you re saying is so off base trust me i know. Second i hated EQ2 so what good is that to me. Third ya they listened to feedback whats wrong with that lol. I never said people aren t enjoying it , i said we didn t as a group. Why is that so hard for you guys to understand. Get over it.

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

 

Originally posted by namelessbob

Originally posted by observer

With a lot of people upset at Funcom for releasing, in their opinion, an unfinished game, SOE has given away 2 free months for past EQ2 players.  Just check your old accounts and it's there.  Will this affect AoC's playerbase?

Probly. EQ2 is a far superior game to AoC.

How long has EQ2 being released compared to AoC?

 

Why go back to EQ2 when people have done everything in the game instead of enjoying new experiences with AoC, unexplored areas, game mechanics etc.

Alot of people are not even level 40 yet in AoC and yet to experience mounted combat for example.

SOE just did this (if they did) because they are worried. Many EQ2 players are enjoying content in AoC, bugs n all.

Why not go back, if you previously liked it but left for certain reasons. Maybe they tried AOC didn t like it and now SOE is putting this out there to get some back. Seems smart to me.

Originally posted by Fion

 

Originally posted by Leucent

Originally posted by Fion

Exactly. It seems the only people that really have a problem with the instancing are folks like the guy above your post. IE people with an agenda. Trolls, haters, and fanboi's of other games.

This is so not true. There are many people saying they don t like it , but are waiting a few months to see what happens. Does this make them a troll, hater, or fanbois of another game. I can say from my personal experience, that i know of at least 30 people who could care less if the game suceeds or not wont be playing it due to this and other reasons. These 30 people are members of a guild i m in , in other games. It s simply this, not everyone is going to like it, and being that you re a close second only behing Avery as AOC s fanbois, of course you ll say this.

 

So 'at least' 30 members of your guild all hate the instancing so bad they plan on leaving if it doesn't change before the end of their free month or soon after?

Why does that strike me as odd? Oh yea, because not a single person I've talked to in game really cares about it, and I'm part of the one of the largest guilds on Wiccana and not a one of them gives a rats ass about the instancing.

Granted, I can see it being more an issue on PvP servers, and I should have said 'most', not 'all.' But my post was pertaining more to forums like these then in game players. It seams on the forums the whole issue is mostly used as a bullet point as to why the game 'sucks' or '= fail' or what have you.

No what i said  was they don t like instancing period. Why is that odd. We tried the game didn t like it as a guild so we decided to leave. Did you hear us in game no because we didn t talk to you or any other person in game about it. By the sound of it you must have talked to everybody in game? I guess because you seem to know everything, everyone is thinking. Not to mention what they all like and dislike.  Get it through your head this game isn t for everyone and never will be, if some have problems with it for whatever reason, calm down , chill out and forget it. You can t change peoples minds with your oh so favorable fanbois propaganda.

Originally posted by elvenangel

The takihng of the gates & the keeps necessary for the siege are Open World and NOT instanced...the Street Rampages how ever ARE scenario based and once a certain number of the opened Scenarios are won or lost they close Permantly opening the city to full rampaging.   It is NOT like Age of Conan's 48vs48 instancing.

 

If you watch the Paris videos he explains this and the reasoning for why the Street Brawling are instanced Scenarios.    The rest is all Open World.

You re so much better at explaining then i do thats why i ll leave it to you from now on :)