All Posts by BackwardsDag

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FPS of 60 is excellent, if you are getting that, I wouldn't worry about anything to much

Without a doubt, I feel the same way, and to such a point, I have removed most all games except the old RP workhorse, Gemstone. Its text, its old, its expensive, but it has opportunity for a real good time RP experience.

  Good job , I am sure it was fun. WoW kept me happy for about a year and a half, its quite a decent game. For something completely diff, try EVE Online, that's where I went.

to the 4 pages of flamers- you got to be kidding me. Pretty much this forumn exists so we can share our accomplishments and our disappointments, or, in simple american terms you can understand, bragging. If you can't brag at a pub, where can you?

Thanks for the in tips, Hot hot hot!

I am secret race game player,hope to see yall there!

BD

not impressed.

Personally, just for the experiance, I suggest trying everything that is free. It is quite a menu, and there are tons of games you can try for a week or even more.  These days, I am wondering if I shouldn't just go back to a well funded and looked for text game, or a well managed first gen visual game.

EVE is all that is out there for the mature thoughtful player. LoTRO is full of crap intro and secondary players, most other games are bogged down or not being actively produced. My two cents.

Right now, IMHO, EVE.

Be nice if all games, within reason, were submitted.

 i find AO is taken best with a casual flair, a sort of I will play this week... next week I will play not. It is a perfect companion game to EVE, and its is a perfect second game. Compounding and difficult, AO gives the player something different, a different style of challenge. Personally, making AO your main game is a problem, much less trying to engage the challenge of the game itself.

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I have ALWAYS wanted to see a game based off the series Black Company by Glen Cook. This series had it all and would introduce a flaming topic, no races. BUT- strategy, storyline, wicked cool monsters, demons, factions, internal faction war, faction switching, world size, towns that mean something, cities, charector roles... I bet it would take ten years just to get the programming down

Originally posted by Ts117

Originally posted by BackwardsDag

 

Originally posted by Yukari_Momma

I would certainly pay more for a better rp community.  I'm thinking perhaps a beginner's rp server and an experienced rp server are both needed..  They could have different rules, and it would allow some people to have the moderated rp atmosphere they desire while also allowing people who are new to the idea to have a place not so strict to learn in.

 

A great world full of people who are always in character would be wonderful...  Let's give the rpers a place where they don't feel they have to hide in corners!

 

This is exactly what I am talking about SIMU! We want it, we will pay for it, and we will be dedicated! Not only that, I would love to be able to point to a real rp game, and say there, thats how its done.

I believe what you want is similar to the platinum package for DR and GS4 which is 50$ a month (reduced from 80$ a month). DR Platinum is the "roleplaying server" for DragonRealms and has less than 20 players during peak hours. If you dont wont pay for plat, you can always play in DR Prime, but you have to deal with some of the role-tards as well as the RP'ers.

Well, almost...

I have experienced the plat GS and all, what I want is the same thing in 3d. Muddy waters was electric before electric was cool. I loved GS, but I still like 3d enviroments better than text now. My big whine is all about getting the GS style of play into a 3d game.

On a side note, I found the best overall roleplaying to be found in just regular old gemstone, vs. plat. I liked plat, and yes, it was more exclusive and rp oriented, but the folks in regular GS were MUCH more fun and exciting. Eh, I dont mind all the differences that come from being in a more open server, vs. the amount of people I get to interact with. The performances, while not as well listened to and liked by all, always had an audience, and everyone was always enthusiastic. But to each their own, I might have liked plat better if I had started there, but it was hard to leave the relations I had already built in regular GS.

Like any good addict, I switched addictions by finding something more challenging. I now play EVE, tho still curious as to what happens, as is shown by my lingering around WoW forums here...

Since I answered why I hated it, here is why I loved it-

OOOOOOO I loved being a mace rogue, popping out of nowhere and pwning was the best. Yes I died a lot, but I also was able to break frontlines, and assist in almost any raid. Not the easiest of choices, but heh, I tend towards the most difficult of classes in any mmorpg.

Gonna stick my two ISK in here... (thats what she said)

Love love love the game, I would even play if I was forced to listen to oldies the entire time. I am a four month player, and heh, I can tackle a veteran just like a n00b, if they aint outfitted for preventing it.

I played my CEO in a frigate on frigate duel, and won, at two months of skill points, because as I was building my ships to maximize with my skills, he was doing cov ops. Even though he almost beat me, it proved to me that it is strategy and fitting that will win the day, not 2 and half years of skills. He off course beat the snot out of me after that and continues to do so, but the fact remains, he challenged his youngest corp member to a duel, and lost.

Can I make the money he does? Hell no, but then, if I help him, he gives me half.

The biggest point is the same between us-

GET INTO A GOOD CORP.    and that is a really big period at the end of that statement

I tried the game back in Jan. 07, and hated it. Complex, no support, and no idea how to raise cash. Came back in September with my local m8's who play, and it was completely a different experience.

GET INTO A GOOD CORP. GET INTO A GOOD CORP. GET INTO A GOOD CORP. GET INTO A GOOD CORP. GET INTO A GOOD CORP. GET INTO A GOOD CORP. GET INTO A GOOD CORP.

" And I hate to burst your bubble, but it wasn't all that ballsy.  Anyone who's played for a while has tried something similar to this.  In fact I'll do you one step better, we tried to take Thunder Bluff one time."

What was your point? The amount of ballsiness is not up to your standards? You can do me one better? I really don't understand why you even posted this, other than you disagree with me, and this was all you could pick apart. I played for a solid two years after BG's, and I still hold this same opinion, disagree and argue all you want, it ain't gonna change how I think. I do believe the thread was about why you hate WoW, not why you must defend your honorable game from horrible people like me who disagree.

Come to EVE, and see what a non capped, non-fought-in-tiny-rooms game is like.

Mostly come so I can pod yah.

I know I know, this thread is near and dear to my heart, and not many others really care, but those of you who do care...

 I did RP in WOW... that may come as a complete surprise to most any player of WOW, but before battlegrounds screwed us out of an active world, WoW had a rather fun and interesting RP community. We had things going on that no one had thought of.

A few examples-

WoW olympics! Yes we had cross faction (horde/alliance) games! Including a footrace, mount race, swimming race, and a fishing contest, It only happened once, but it was fun for all.

Two human women who were dating male trolls, and all the hilarity and farce that this caused.

A Horde/Alliance peace movement- nothing better for a world of war.

A weekly storytelling meeting, that had as many as 50 regular visitors and contributors, and over 200 various visitors and listeners.

WoW is hugely known for its mesmerizing graphics, and its (despite the beautiful world in which you play,) horrible avatars. It really actually put us in a different mode of RP is all, like switching from DnD to Warhammer or MERPS. My point is this, despite the ideas that RP is dead, when the community is allowed to grow and expand on its own two feet, it is amazing what happens. I was in the Shadow Council server the day it started, and watched and helped the community grow, and the RP was absolutely amazing! As the game became more and more crowded, we lost the support of Blizzard to help us police the server. It was never a strict policing, and nobody was banned or anything, but it was like one day (near to BG's coming out,) they stopped responding to any pleas we made about players who were ridiculous in their disruption.

Soon after, we would become inundated by other players who's soul purpose was to entrench themselves against any RP in the server. I know many folks, including myself, continued playing and doing RP, and it still goes on today, but when we lost the support of Blizz, we lost the entire central community. I lost heart, and so did my guildmates, though I retired from RP long before any of them.

To apply myself to the second point schmoja was making, global chat has always been in the SIMU games, it was called quite honestly, AIM. Other tools were made specifically for the GS clients as well, and they would usually be specifically centered around global chat. If you remember paper and pencil games, global chat was what was said around the gaming table inbetween rounds, or in the kitchen for another two liter of mountain dew.

RP really just needs good ground to flourish in, role players always take into account that hey, somethings are perfectly in charector, and others are not, but if you strive to play the role you have chosen, technology does not ruin your acting or experience. SIMU actively takes out players who are disruptive in Gemstone, although the lengths at which one one has to act an ass has certainly grown, there is still active moderation to characters being disruptive (or at least, in the spring of 07, the last time I played a few months.)

I am not trying to flame schmoja,,  those points are valid and honest, and I agree with them to a point as well, but if RP can exist in world of warcrack, I think in a game written by those who have held the best RP role in MMO's yet, it can exist again.  As you said, you have paid premium for two years, so its not the price, its the relevance of what happens when the game goes live.

Which we are still waiting for release in 2007 my ass!

not my best dissertation, but hey...

I do not hate WoW, I hate BG's. The battlegrounds removed the players from interacting in the world, and it turned the best world into an empty farming world.

To put it exactly as you asked:

I hate WoW because they made a big giant world for us to play in, then turned it into a big giant empty world.

When we formed our guild on the RP server Shadow Council, one of the first things we did as a guild was raid (we were alliance,) the horde city of Crossroads. Most of us were lvl 30 or under, and it was the ballsiest thing. We crossed the plains without any clothes on, because we wanted our armor at full when we arrived in Crossroads, so there was this group of humans, gnomes, elves and dwarves traipsing across the desert naked, and that was our pic for our guild forums for almost a year. When all the level 60's arrived to smoosh us, they instead honored us, laughed at us, then smooshed us. We fought for a good half hour, and then, we all left, honoring our enemies as well. It was and still is one of my best memories of gaming, ever.

I do not want to relive glory days, my point is, this never happens now. The world is a sterile enviroment now, something Blizz tried to fix with the latest expansion, and a few other capture the flag kind of scenarios in the first world, but those tend to be abandoned, or over run by lvl 70's who just want to dominate the scene (griefers.)  Everyone wants honor, or arena points now, and the entire game is run in little rooms. When we fought before BG, it was to win the field, and claim the battle won. It put level 30's side by side with level 60's. I remember harrassing a large group of 60's, when I was but lvl 32. My group succeeded, because they chased us all over the countryside, seeking revenge, while the battlefield was won by the alliance. Literally, a perfect strategic distraction, something you can only truely do in an immersive and player filled world. The forums were filled and used all the time, the alliance and the horde were on the same page (for that server anyways, although it seemed to be true on all servers.)

BG's were designed to capture other players from like minded games, and it was a slap dash measure that ruined what was turning into a fantastic world. Honor was the point system that was instituted to preceed BG, and as soon as it was turned on, it ruined the game. Now it was all 60's on the battlefield, grinding honor, not fighting to get a battle won. I know this all sounds rediculous, but it really is true for me. I never saw the same action, my guild fell apart as we lost our better players to honor oriented guilds, and even as I rose up thru the ranks a second time on a PvP server, I never was to be a part of anything monumentous again, untill I found EVE, where there is but one place to do things, no seperation between the war and the world.

I came from WoW, and was very good in that game, but hated the whole BG thing. When I heard EVE was comprehensive and immersive, I checked it out, and was immediately frustrated. 6 months later a RL friend said come on in, we will get yah goin, and once I joined the corp, I was hooked. Now we are established in 0.0 space and I am having to much fun. WoW was ruined once they made battlegrounds, cause it seperates the world from the game, making it essentially, an empty world.

Before that it was Anarchy Online, Everquest, Ultima Online.... none of these games are truely up to date like WoW or EVE are. I like to play whats goin on, whats creative and challenging. WoW has the problem of topping out, but EVE is constantly changing and evolving, without a top limit other than how much ISK you can spend.

If WoW were to make a non BG server, I would play it again there, but the game is just to damn limiting otherwise. Its got this big giant world no one is ever in, compared to EVE, where everyone is in the entire world at the same time.

 Every now and then SIMU come along and lets us know they are working on it, and now, it's december 07 and nothing solid, no word of what is happening.

I play another game, EVE, and I am immersed, spending about 100 bux a month on it. Its going on, its just got a new revision, and I love it. I loved SIMU in the past, and want to love em again, but I will admit, I am into EVE and am not going anywhere for a year, at least. I might go to Hero's Journey in a year, but heh, it just doesn't seem they are in any hurry to get this game out. I watched them win in 2005 with baited breath, I waited and waited...

Now I just don't know, and am starting to wonder if I will ever care.

It may very well be true that by the time they actually get the game out, ten other games will be out and trying to get my attention. Or I will rule in EVE (doubtful)...

This was written after my open letter to SIMU, which, after a week, they aint responding to as well, so they aint watching these threads very closely. It even involves giving them more money...