My question is what exactly are we supposed to get besides more lvls and a new class?

1.Are they going to repair the economy?

2.are they going to rework all the crafting to be useful instead of a complete joke that it is now?

3. Are they going to provide new content for casuals players who dont raid or hate pvp?

4.Are casual players going to be paying for alot more content they will never see, as in the current norm?

5. Are we going to see alot more tedious faction grind bs?

 What have the Romans ever done for us?

Originally posted by bensculpt

My question is what exactly are we supposed to get besides more lvls and a new class?

1.Are they going to repair the economy?

2.are they going to rework all the crafting to be useful instead of a complete joke that it is now?

3. Are they going to provide new content for casuals players who dont raid or hate pvp?

4.Are casual players going to be paying for alot more content they will never see, as in the current norm?

5. Are we going to see alot more tedious faction grind bs?

I smell a troll

The economy is fine in the game.  I don't know what they could 'repair'.

Crafting is very useful in the game.  Do you know any lvl 60+ characters that dont' have 2 professions? The fact that everyone bothers to do them shows that they are useful.  You tell me a craft, and I'll show you the reason to level it :)

3. Um..  yeah, there are like 50, 5 man dungeons, heroics and dailys.  Show me another game that has more content for max level players who don't want to be part of big groups or pvp. 

4.  Actually,  the opposite is true.  Do you know that there isn't a single piece of content that 25man raids will see that smaller groups can't see?

5.  What is tedius? doing quests, running dungeons?   that is all you have to do to get reputations.

If you don't like to pvp, to raid, to craft, to do dungeons or to quest.. then WOW probably isn't the game for you.

Originally posted by Azrile

Originally posted by bensculpt

My question is what exactly are we supposed to get besides more lvls and a new class?

1.Are they going to repair the economy?

2.are they going to rework all the crafting to be useful instead of a complete joke that it is now?

3. Are they going to provide new content for casuals players who dont raid or hate pvp?

4.Are casual players going to be paying for alot more content they will never see, as in the current norm?

5. Are we going to see alot more tedious faction grind bs?

 

I smell a troll

The economy is fine in the game.  I don't know what they could 'repair'.

Crafting is very useful in the game.  Do you know any lvl 60+ characters that dont' have 2 professions? The fact that everyone bothers to do them shows that they are useful.  You tell me a craft, and I'll show you the reason to level it :)

3. Um..  yeah, there are like 50, 5 man dungeons, heroics and dailys.  Show me another game that has more content for max level players who don't want to be part of big groups or pvp. 

4.  Actually,  the opposite is true.  Do you know that there isn't a single piece of content that 25man raids will see that smaller groups can't see?

5.  What is tedius? doing quests, running dungeons?   that is all you have to do to get reputations.

If you don't like to pvp, to raid, to craft, to do dungeons or to quest.. then WOW probably isn't the game for you.

Crafting is usefull in the game? I think it is...does everyone post 60 have it? HELL NO..alot of people dont bother to pick up crafting.  In fact some proffesions are downright useless. The WOW economy actually is not fine. Gold sellers/spammers/gold guides and daily quests making it easy to get gold ahs sent the economy in a inflation frenzy. Yes WoW is tedius..you can grind gear in BG's and the gear you get wont get you into a raid..however Blizzard has said that you can get raid equivelant gear by doing PVP or PVE. Sure you get epics..but players wont invite you becuase of the stat differences. 50 5 man dungeons that most are never used anymore...because fewer and fewer people want to level 1-70 let alone 1-80. 

you smell a troll..i smell a fanboy.

Wow is a great game..but lets face it..the game is basically a non-stop gear grind.  And some people are just sick of gear grinding and dealing with immature communities.

Originally posted by Recant

 What have the Romans ever done for us?

Peace.

Originally posted by bensculpt

My question is what exactly are we supposed to get besides more lvls and a new class?

1.Are they going to repair the economy?

Economy is fine, please elaborate on how it is broken.

2.are they going to rework all the crafting to be useful instead of a complete joke that it is now?

Crafting has a much larger focus in WRATH, alot more end lvl stuff in regards to LW (not checked others).  and  crafting is not a joke, as a LW I use my drums on a regular basis, make money on the AH selling raw materials and high-end armour patches. Sure I cant craft a Session 4 equivlant leather set but even if i could haters what bang on about the amount of materials required to craft such a high end set.

3. Are they going to provide new content for casuals players who dont raid or hate pvp?

They can hang around If like always,  theres content but as with all things if they dont want to participate they wont find it.

4.Are casual players going to be paying for alot more content they will never see, as in the current norm?

blizzard have 10man versions of 25man raids, will launch with 12 5man dungeons all with heroic versions. what more do you want?

5. Are we going to see alot more tedious faction grind bs?

Yes.. deal with it, blizzard have added tabards to help gain faction quicker.  But the bottom line you dont have to get faction if you dont want to, you earn the faction to earn the rewards, all mmos have a faction system they just call it renown, influence, rank, fame etc.

I cant bellieve anyone would defend crafting in this game, i guess theve never played anything else to compare. 99% of all crafting recipes r never used, ever, taking crafting insted of a sec gathering skill will utterly cripple your income potential, so yes crafting is crap, and to tope it off there is nothing u can make until lvl 60+ gear that would sell for even a small fraction of the raw mats to make it! And no im not a troll i just expect improvement considering how long the game has been out. As for the economy only a vet would think its okay, any new player would find gear completly out of his reach starting out fresh! As for the rst i guess will see.

And another thing as regards to dungeons the fact that there plenty doesnt mean shit, no one does any of them except a very few, anything pre bc is an utter joke w/o any incentive to visit unless u have a class mount quest!

Originally posted by Recant

 What have the Romans ever done for us?

aqueducts. lol

www.youtube.com/watch
 

Originally posted by bensculpt

My question is what exactly are we supposed to get besides more lvls and a new class?

1)  New Profession and new patterns for all existing professions

2)  New mounts including multiple person riding mounts

3)  Vehicles including flying and siege vehicles

4)  New Skills & Revamped Skill trees

5)  Rework of Buff/Debuff system

6)  Rework of aggro system to allow higher DPS

7)  Barbershop

8)  Achievements

9) New Zones

10) New Battlegrounds

11) New Instances with both 5 and 10 man versions with different reset timers and loot tables

12) New Major City

13) New items and set gear

14)  New quests and quest types

15)  New Flight Paths and types of flight paths (logging)

16)  New Intercontinent travel (Turtles)

16)  New Mobs

17)  New Tabards

Sorry, that's all I can think of, but I'm sure there's more.

Originally posted by bensculpt

My question is what exactly are we supposed to get besides more lvls and a new class?

1.Are they going to repair the economy?    Its broken?   Maybe prices are low now because people are anticipating an expantion, which happened in every game I've played, in DAOC when Trials came out Prices dropped, in FFXI when they released WotG, prices dropped, in UO when they released the 2nd age?  Prices dropped.  All of this BEFORE the expantion, why?  because the gear your buying won't be NEARLY as important in 2 months as it is now.  Which you may complain about progression but hey its the journey that makes the MMO.

2.are they going to rework all the crafting to be useful instead of a complete joke that it is now

Crafting as useless?  You can make T6 equivilent gear with crafting, and it doesn't take you running raids to get the items,  yep getting awesome gear with your craft is CLEARLY worthless.

3. Are they going to provide new content for casuals players who dont raid or hate pvp?

if you hate PvP play on a PvE server, if you don't like Raiding, play Hello kitty online? 

I mean the game is made for raiding... really it is... just like EQ before it and DAOC.  New content for you?  lots of 5 man dungeons, EVERY RAID is now a 10 man AND 25 man mode, so you can just skip joining a big guild and PUG 10 man raids, yes EVERY Raid is 10 and 25 two levels you can easily switch between by right clicking your character and selecting the type you want.

4.Are casual players going to be paying for alot more content they will never see, as in the current norm?

Casual players ALWAYS can do ALL of the content, you could do a raid in 2 hours, I know I do, just  log on for just the raid, find a guild that raids when your free. You could always just join an arena team and PvP all day long if you wanted to, there is an endless amount of things to do, even for someone who only has an hour or two.

 

5. Are we going to see alot more tedious faction grind bs?    If you hate grinding, QUIT MMOs, THEY ALL HAVE IT, the POINT of MMOs IS GRINDING.

MMOers are all people who used to play FF7 and Chrono trigger and max out their characters an insane amount, we're level building fools!

We love the challenge of more grinding, its the essence of our game.

jerid 13 hit it on the head

some well said statements they really are. I am one of those, loves grinding people, it was are bread and butter and when i played war you get stuff way to quickly same with AOC as well. its shame that all the nubbies complain about it takes to long to get something and devs give them what they want. I wish it would take months to get to level 80 but i know it will only take a few days its really sad with what happened to rpgs. MMOs they may be but RPG is in the name so grinds are in it deal with it.

Stop trying to ruin the genre plz.